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I agree. I never ever said it was right. I don't promote it. I am saying that as a man you need to come up with a strategy to cope with the reality that this behavior is prevalent. In my original post I gave 2 strategies that a man can employ.

We cant put our head in the sand and keep acting like this isnt prevalent. I gave ways to cope with it that my friends use.
Thats a good point. It's like adapting to changes in life. And we must use a strategy that works better for our personal context and values.
 

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If you actually had real world experience you would know that black chicks are actually very difficult to sleep with unless you are a specific type. Your game has to be air tight to get a hot black girl. They are very mean if your game is not tight. But again you dont actually talk to women so this is new to you.

Now black women do choose the worst males to procreate with, but as far as actual body count they are below the average suburban girl. Suking dyck is actually not that common with black girls unless you are their man. Suburban girls dont even count suking **** as sex many times. Again, I have real world experience and you are a fat nerd that just reads seduction books.
Black chicks are NOT difficult to sleep with.
 

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Black chicks are NOT difficult to sleep with.
It depends what part of the USA you are in. Hot black girls in the DMV are not easy. Relative to their counterparts in other races black chicks are among the hardest....unless you are a Tupac clone. Or a ball player.

Black girls have the lowest margin of error when it comes to cold approaching. They will disqualify you for something silly like the brand name of your shoes haha.
 

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Black girls have the lowest margin of error when it comes to cold approaching. They will disqualify you for something silly like the brand name of your shoes haha.
Its funny that black women are that picky, yet when black men don't want any part of that, and refuse to date black chicks, they complain that black men are supposed to be for them.
 

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Its funny that black women are that picky, yet when black men don't want any part of that, and refuse to date black chicks, they complain that black men are supposed to be for them.
Exactly. Black women are super picky then they end up getting mad when black men cross over to Latinas, Asians or whites. Black women are something else man.

My homie put it this way:

Black women: " cold up front, but warm on the back end". Meaning black women are a headache up front but they dont use the legal system to divorce you. They have a conscience when they are leaving you if they leave you. They are kinda loyal once you get them.

White women: " warm up front but cold on the back end". White women are friendly up front, but when they are done its like they never knew you. They will be in court as if you guys were mortal enemies.
 

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It depends what part of the USA you are in. Hot black girls in the DMV are not easy. Relative to their counterparts in other races black chicks are among the hardest....unless you are a Tupac clone. Or a ball player.

Black girls have the lowest margin of error when it comes to cold approaching. They will disqualify you for something silly like the brand name of your shoes haha.
NYC. I’m a black man white collar professional so that helps a lot.
 

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NYC. I’m a black man white collar professional so that helps a lot.
Yeh well NYC girls are different. Its crazy how the DMV and NYC ( tri state) area are only 4 hours away. But the women are totally different. NYC girls are imho more extroverted and more fun, but more mouthy. Yeh I can see how you will do well in NYC. I would like to maybe move there but its crowded and expensive.
 

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I have never explicitly been cheated on. I dont usually stay in relationships past 1 yr. I did have a BPD chick make arrangements to cheat on me that ultimately failed.

Even though I have never been cheated on explicitly that does not mean that I am naive. I know some shady stuff went on behind my back with atleast one of the dozen or so gfs ive had.

To think that no girl ever cheated on you behind your back is the height of hubris and delusion.

Men are like dogs...we shyt anywhere
Women are like cats....they cover their shyt up very well. You never catch a cat shyting

Btw have you seen how high the false paternity rate is among ALL races? It would be even higher if every man tested. I rest my case.
Not sure, it's certainly possible. However, I have my one strike rule. If they violate that rule, they are gone. The female I was dating while I was having kidney surgery may have. Her pvssy smelled different, so I fvcked her one more time, and 86ed her. She had reached after that several times, but I never once responded. In sexual relationships, you must keep a very short leash.
 

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Yeh well NYC girls are different. Its crazy how the DMV and NYC ( tri state) area are only 4 hours away. But the women are totally different. NYC girls are imho more extroverted and more fun, but more mouthy. Yeh I can see how you will do well in NYC. I would like to maybe move there but its crowded and expensive.
DMV? You pick up your females at the Dept of Motor Vehicles? I think that may be your issue dude...
 

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Yes black men do cheat a lot. Our culture as black men is one that uses women to validate our manhood. Look at how hypersexual hip hop is. We also come from polyamorous African tribal roots.

Dude im telling you white females are the worst. I hate to make it a race thing. Im not sure how old you are but have you dated a young millenial or Genz white girl recently?

Look at most of the girls in porn what color are they? You guys want to deflect by saying " its mostly the minority girls that cheat". Bro honestly a black girl is so mean that she is less a cheating risk than a liberal white chick in a big city.

But again ask your girl to show you her phone. This debate can be easily ended via that.

You will find her talking to her ex or some other guy. Im not saying she will neccessarily be banging him though. But it will make you angry what you find.
I dated a few 25 and 26 year olds 3 years ago. It was a wild ride. I published it here. Not worth the headache. We were both pushing and pulling each other and the sexual tension was pretty extreme.. When it's like that, you know there's going to be a problem. I'm late 30's, my GF is now mid 30's.. It's been 3 years. Not going back to that rollercoaster....

FYI - STD rates across all millennials is sky rocketing. We have vials of Valaciclovir at the hospital ready for the lucky person with the itchy scratchy pimples and rashes.. Fun times for people these days...
 

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Women also massively disrespect a guy who forgives her for cheating, and respect increases if a guy walks away after he’s cheated on (boundaries for women are attractive). Which says a lot about how women view infidelity really. They are jealous and selective creatures.
Tight leash dude. As a wise dude once said, treat females like your dog, and you'd be fine. I think it was George "Rollobar Tomassi" Miller.
 

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So what did you end up doing?
Sorry to respond so late

But to be honest, I found that for me personally fashion and fitness really upgraded my confidence, I also started goin out and making more friends all of these extra activities that I weren't doing before satisfied me and saved me from being bored, turning to porn , or chasing women/fantasizing about women all day
 

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Sorry to respond so late

But to be honest, I found that for me personally fashion and fitness really upgraded my confidence, I also started goin out and making more friends all of these extra activities that I weren't doing before satisfied me and saved me from being bored, turning to porn , or chasing women/fantasizing about women all day
It's amazing what an in-shape physique and some well-chosen clothes can do to your confidence. It's why I get a haircut every 10-14 days without fail. It's why I buy a new outfit every time I go out. Whatever keeps your confidence high, keep doing it.
 

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So I was on a 3 man crew. One of the guys went to the house of a married woman who is in his firehouse. We covered for him. Hes been banging her. No remorse. The husband doesnt seem to know and or care.

The other night a mutual female friend hooked me up with her friend. This chick was still married. First base only until I felt guilty and left. Its difficult for me to smash a married chick. Boyfriend..yes.....married no. Shorty told me was she already divorced ( false).

And no these women are not ghetto trash. One is a non minority college educated semi wealthy girl.

Dont get married fellas.
 

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One of the girls I'm seeing now was married for 10+ years and is out sleeping with other men (including me) because she says he "doesn't care about her". I think I became her favorite though because she always makes time to see me, and initiates contact even if it's literally for a "hi and bye". We make fun of the other guys that hit up her phone. Literally. One of them is an older rich guy with a boat and we were talking about pretending to be brother and sister so we could hang out on it, then laughed about how awkward and funny it would be if I made out with my "sister" in front of him. It was all jokes ofc, but this is literally how most girls think. I'm framed myself (at least with this chick) to fall in the Group 1 category of OPs posts. I don't show jealousy, and literally make it known that I "expect" that kind of behavior from her. I already knew it from the beginning and seeing other red flags.. so trying to be mono with her was never an option. My only thing is she can't get jealous if I do the same thing. Honestly, a lot of what I read in this thread (from both sides) seems to ring true, and my current situation seems to be a great example of that. At this point, I don't even think she wants to fool around with anyone else.. just me, but she keeps guys around for validation/attention or "on the back burner just in case", because I've already proven to her that I have other options and can easily walk away. It's this constant state of anxiety that they crave from HV men.
 

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Yes I totally agree. This is why I am so obsessed about her past sexual history. The less partners the less risk of cheating.

Although my sister told me that her friend cheated on her bf. She said " I made out with two guys at a bar". She was thrilled but slightly guilty. Her friend was a Mormon girl who was a virgin before getting married. Now she wants to kiss other men even though she is married.

So even virgins are not a safe bet anymore.
Women could have less partners in their sexual history, but they're still women right?
 

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Your woman will cheat on you in some way, shape or fashion. Women are NOT monogamous. As a man your only leverage is indifference and to be doing the same thing.
Should a man show indifference towards a woman birthing a child that is not his while in a relationship or marriage with his funds used for raising it? That is, a man having a blasè attitude to literally be cuckolded.

“Hey honey, I just went to the store with my mom and girlfriend. We picked out new clothing for Johnny. Then I signed him up for little league and swimming lessons for this Spring. Oh, by the way, he’s not yours.”

“Sure thing babe. It’s all good.”
 

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Should a man show indifference towards a woman birthing a child that is not his while in a relationship or marriage with his funds used for raising it? That is, a man having a blasè attitude to literally be cuckolded.

“Hey honey, I just went to the store with my mom and girlfriend. We picked out new clothing for Johnny. Then I signed him up for little league and swimming lessons for this Spring. Oh, by the way, he’s not yours.”

“Sure thing babe. It’s all good.”
Naw her birthing a child that is not yours is way too far. My point is that if you go looking for trouble you will find it. The old heads taught me to not go looking for stuff.

Even the best girls have some conversations in her social media that would piss you off. Its not sexual stuff but just attention stuff.
 

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Women could have less partners in their sexual history, but they're still women right?
Yup. They are still women. Quick story time. My homie just reconnected with me. Cool white dude late 30s. Over 6ft etc.

He told me he and his Mormon wife got divorced. They grew up Mormon heavy in the church etc. She was cheating on him with a swinger couple. She got caught up in some major legal issues.

You would have never expected that from this chick. I met her before. She was real quiet on the surface. 2 parent home ( i think). Parents are Mormom etc.

So you just cant put it past any of them not to be idiots. They are the middle ground between child and man.
 

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Your woman will cheat on you in some way, shape or fashion. Women are NOT monogamous. As a man your only leverage is indifference and to be doing the same thing. My point is that if you go looking for trouble you will find it. The old heads taught me to not go looking for stuff.

Even the best girls have some conversations in her social media that would piss you off. Its not sexual stuff but just attention stuff.
Im not saying I disagree. I think its about where each person draws the line. I could cold approach a hot girl, get her number, never text her, tell my gf all about it and she would laugh it off and/or she would get jealous but in a cute way, not a bad way.
 
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