"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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No kiss on the first date, immediate grounds for nexting?

2Rocky

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Sure escalate at an appropriate pace but set the precedent of physical touch from the get go...not Groping....Hugs, touching, high fives, body contact, etc...
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Touch her all the time even if it’s not sexual. Even back pats, accidentally bumping against her, you can make it seem unintentional. It doesn’t matter. Just touch her.
Also, learn to give a shoulder massage. Girls will be all yours if you do that.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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TheNewStyle123

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Congrats dude. Just relax and don't go overboard. Take a shot of whiskey or a hit of weed to chill yourself before she comes over. You got this!
Or both! Haha nah, thanks buddy I am definitely looking forward too it either way. I am going in with the mentality that if we have sex, great, but it's not a requirement. It will just be a fun night.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Well. Went for it an invited her to my place for dinner (asked her to bring wine) and she gladly accepted!

Now I just need to play it cool and escalate slowly if/when appropriate. Let’s see if she actually follows through and doesn’t cancel either..
Brother. Congrats. When a woman agrees to bring wine to your place, she's 90% DTF, the remaining 10% is your job (to make her horny enough to do it).
 

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Brother. Congrats. When a woman agrees to bring wine to your place, she's 90% DTF, the remaining 10% is your job (to make her horny enough to do it).
Thanks man! Lets hope. I don't want to put the cart before the horse. We'll see if she actually follows through and comes over!
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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TheNewStyle123

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@TheNewStyle123

While you two are in the kitchen cooking, put your glass of wine on the counter. At one point when the mood is right, lean in to kiss her. Just before your lips get to hers, turn your head and just brush her cheek with yours. Pick up your wine glass and take a sip.

Be non-chalant about it. Pay her no attention while taking a drink.

This is part of a classic push-pull I do all the time.
Damnnnn love that buddy. Muchas gracias.
 

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anti slut defense, basically she doesn't want you to think she is too easy so she will play coy.

I do have some experience with Brazilians.
Seems like a good sign then her coming over, bringing wine, and wanting to teach me forro then, huh??
 

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Seems like a good sign then her coming over, bringing wine, and wanting to teach me forro then, huh??
Last Brazilian girl I hooked up with didn't even let me get close to kissing her on the first date.. Second date she agreed to come over to my apartment and blew me like a band horn hahaha.
 

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Would you guys give this girl another date?
Yea, I would,...but that needs an explanation to put it in context.

I'm usually the one not giving them the kiss at the end of the 1st date. If I'm not feeling it,...or if I sense that they don't feel it,...then I don't give it. I also don't give it to a chick that I sense will consider herself instantly in a relationship with me if she gets a kiss on the first date. I don't expect the warm fuzzies & fireworks on the first date,...so I will give it a few dates before deciding if I think it has potential. I'm not sitting there hoping with fingers crossed that I'll get a kiss after the 1st date (that seems kind of beta to me really),...instead I'm sitting there deciding if I want to give her one or even if the whole situation merits one.
 
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I just realized I posted on my other thread "She demands a 5th date prior to having sex" about the outcome of THIS situation.

So yes, this Brazilian chick that wouldn't kiss me on the first date ended up bucking me last night!

@Lookatu
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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