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No kiss on the first date, immediate grounds for nexting?

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Well. Went for it an invited her to my place for dinner (asked her to bring wine) and she gladly accepted!

Now I just need to play it cool and escalate slowly if/when appropriate. Let’s see if she actually follows through and doesn’t cancel either..
Brother. Congrats. When a woman agrees to bring wine to your place, she's 90% DTF, the remaining 10% is your job (to make her horny enough to do it).
 

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Brother. Congrats. When a woman agrees to bring wine to your place, she's 90% DTF, the remaining 10% is your job (to make her horny enough to do it).
Thanks man! Lets hope. I don't want to put the cart before the horse. We'll see if she actually follows through and comes over!
 

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Thanks man! Lets hope. I don't want to put the cart before the horse. We'll see if she actually follows through and comes over!
A really good wine to have around the house...Educated Guess Cabernet Sauvignon

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While you two are in the kitchen cooking, put your glass of wine on the counter. At one point when the mood is right, lean in to kiss her. Just before your lips get to hers, turn your head and just brush her cheek with yours. Pick up your wine glass and take a sip.

Be non-chalant about it. Pay her no attention while taking a drink.

This is part of a classic push-pull I do all the time.
 

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@TheNewStyle123

While you two are in the kitchen cooking, put your glass of wine on the counter. At one point when the mood is right, lean in to kiss her. Just before your lips get to hers, turn your head and just brush her cheek with yours. Pick up your wine glass and take a sip.

Be non-chalant about it. Pay her no attention while taking a drink.

This is part of a classic push-pull I do all the time.
Damnnnn love that buddy. Muchas gracias.
 

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anti slut defense, basically she doesn't want you to think she is too easy so she will play coy.

I do have some experience with Brazilians.
Seems like a good sign then her coming over, bringing wine, and wanting to teach me forro then, huh??
 

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Seems like a good sign then her coming over, bringing wine, and wanting to teach me forro then, huh??
Last Brazilian girl I hooked up with didn't even let me get close to kissing her on the first date.. Second date she agreed to come over to my apartment and blew me like a band horn hahaha.
 

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Would you guys give this girl another date?
Yea, I would,...but that needs an explanation to put it in context.

I'm usually the one not giving them the kiss at the end of the 1st date. If I'm not feeling it,...or if I sense that they don't feel it,...then I don't give it. I also don't give it to a chick that I sense will consider herself instantly in a relationship with me if she gets a kiss on the first date. I don't expect the warm fuzzies & fireworks on the first date,...so I will give it a few dates before deciding if I think it has potential. I'm not sitting there hoping with fingers crossed that I'll get a kiss after the 1st date (that seems kind of beta to me really),...instead I'm sitting there deciding if I want to give her one or even if the whole situation merits one.
 
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I just realized I posted on my other thread "She demands a 5th date prior to having sex" about the outcome of THIS situation.

So yes, this Brazilian chick that wouldn't kiss me on the first date ended up bucking me last night!

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Last Brazilian girl I hooked up with didn't even let me get close to kissing her on the first date.. Second date she agreed to come over to my apartment and blew me like a band horn hahaha.
This is sounding consistent with Brazillian girls lately.
 

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Atta Boy....


She Epitomizes my "Don't start what you can't finish" approach to Kino and sex.

She is giving plenty of interest signals in her texting. I think when you start the second date at your place you start off on a physically affectionate note. Set the tone with a quick kiss and a tight hug, and then go on about getting the dinner ready. Pour some wine and play some dance music she likes.. Dance in the kitchen while fixing dinner. Be physically touching her flirtily but not sexually. lots of eye contact. She should be playing along and you shouldn't push too fast that she feels like she has to push you away. Leave her wanting more...

After dinner continue the slow dancing in the living room and ramp up the escalation. Her response from the pre dinner kino will tell you if she is feeling the groove. If you pushed to far, she will probably pick up her stuff and leave. Don't ask her out again in that case.
 

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@Lookatu in response to your question:

Night started with her coming over, I was finishing dinner, and initiated kino throughout the night. At some point I invited her into the living room to finish our wine. She didn't necessarily position herself on the couch to not be kissed, but the vibe wasn't quite there yet. I didn't want to rush it and jump the gun.

At some point I threw on the sound system and LED lights in my place and we started dancing (I showed her some bachata and she showed me forro). This is normally the point where I will make a move to lean in for the kiss, but again, she was always just kind of out of reach or the timing wasn't right.

Eventually we end up back on the couch, close together, and she has her hand on my arm and was smiling at me. I thought "it's now or never boy." I smiled and said "come here", leaned in, and started to make out.

We cont. to make out but when I started escalating things she would stop me a bit and say "are we rushing things?" To which I just smiled, didn't respond, and kept kissing her necks and breasts. She kind of pulled away at some points and I thought "fuuck - this isn't happening tonight..." But I stayed persistent, continued to escalate, and eventually she just started taking more clothes off and the deed was done my man!
 

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@Lookatu in response to your question:

Night started with her coming over, I was finishing dinner, and initiated kino throughout the night. At some point I invited her into the living room to finish our wine. She didn't necessarily position herself on the couch to not be kissed, but the vibe wasn't quite there yet. I didn't want to rush it and jump the gun.

At some point I threw on the sound system and LED lights in my place and we started dancing (I showed her some bachata and she showed me forro). This is normally the point where I will make a move to lean in for the kiss, but again, she was always just kind of out of reach or the timing wasn't right.

Eventually we end up back on the couch, close together, and she has her hand on my arm and was smiling at me. I thought "it's now or never boy." I smiled and said "come here", leaned in, and started to make out.

We cont. to make out but when I started escalating things she would stop me a bit and say "are we rushing things?" To which I just smiled, didn't respond, and kept kissing her necks and breasts. She kind of pulled away at some points and I thought "fuuck - this isn't happening tonight..." But I stayed persistent, continued to escalate, and eventually she just started taking more clothes off and the deed was done my man!
Man you really paced that well and didn't let it phase you. Especially the part about not saying anything but smiling. You did good. :up:
It didn't sound like there was that much push/pull, just more of LMR.
 

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Man you really paced that well and didn't let it phase you. Especially the part about not saying anything but smiling. You did good. :up:
It didn't sound like there was that much push/pull, just more of LMR.
Thanks man! I thought so. There were some other minor things too where it was kind of an iffy situation, but I knew better to play aloof and not let small stuff phase me, and shiit did it work.
 

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Update:

She has been a tad flaky as far as meeting up this week, but wanted to meet up this weekend (I am gone though). She hits me with a text pretty much saying she doesn't want all of our interactions hanging out to be her coming over to my place, having sex, then her leaving (I invited her to my place again as I get out of work late tonight and was offering to get us some food).

Where should I proceed? Next her because she wants to "get to know me more and do more stuff in public"? I don't mind doing that at all, but she seems a little averse to having sex now. Could this be ASD and her regretting fuucking me on the second date?

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Update:

She has been a tad flaky as far as meeting up this week, but wanted to meet up this weekend (I am gone though). She hits me with a text pretty much saying she doesn't want all of our interactions hanging out to be her coming over to my place, having sex, then her leaving (I invited her to my place again as I get out of work late tonight and was offering to get us some food).

Where should I proceed? Next her because she wants to "get to know me more and do more stuff in public"? I don't mind doing that at all, but she seems a little averse to having sex now. Could this be ASD and her regretting fuucking me on the second date?

@Lookatu
Bro, isn't this a repeat of what happened with the other girl since you never took her out anywhere public?
If that's the case man, you know what to do. Take her out somewhere public and fun. Don't worry about the sex. If she's having fun, it's going to happen.

Same reasoning as with the other girl, she's probably thinking she's just a booty call right now. She doesn't wanna feel like that.
 
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