GoldenArrow
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I find that women are generally platonic on first dates and expect the guy to initiate everything and she can choose to reject, or proceed and play along.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
How can a guy get a woman to flirt with him?
- Thread starter GoldenArrow
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
All u have to do is be handsome and smile. 80 percent woman will consider flirting.
Flirting is gay though
Flirting is gay though
Spray them with diarrhea of love
corrector
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You are joking. I googled search and there is no such pheromone with that name.
I'm not joking. The only reason I don't use pheromones is because I live at home and my mother reacts violently to them. There are allot of nice self-effects with them too. To be honest, I used pheromones more because of the effects it had on me. I also stopped using them on December 6, 2014 and lost interest after that date when they didn't work to stop a panic attack. (i.e. thought it had at least a usefulness for doing this but it did not work)
They had a pheromone called "Instant Shine" which put you in a "feel good" mood instantly so you are able to have a better positive wavelength that is conducive to making approaches rather than feeling tired or low energy and shying away.
They had this putative pheromone that made me more sensitive to nuances within music so you could hear each individual instrument or vocal within a song piece more fluidly and sharply.
Some people used pheormones for the gym because it boosted their testosterone or something and made them more motivated to lift iron or do a heavy work-out.
As secondary to some of these amazing self-effects, yeah, pheromones elicit responses in women that go out of context to the social situation. At the very least, spraying it on symbolises a commitment to want to improve and want a woman on some level to go that far.
I think there is allot of pheromones out there and it's worth trying different brands by trial and error until you find something that works for you. If all people can do is just knock the idea then what alternative are they offering in terms of advice that you don't already know?
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Not exactly correct.
If the 1st date was initiated by her, she will do her best to impress the man.
And you can then choose to reject, or proceed and play along.
Wouldn't that be better?
Oh and if u r wondering how to be invited out by women, it's easy, be high valued and have a social presence with influence.
zekko
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That's accurate, but I wouldn't say it's easy, unless you have a proclivity for it. If not, that could take quite a bit of work, creativity, and self improvement.
BackInTheGame78
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Then you are not very good on first dates. I'd bet you are boring them to death.
MrWood
Master Don Juan
How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie-Pop?
lets count the ways?
flirt first
kino
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Wouldn't that be more enduring then learning how to be more supplicating as the day goes by - chasing girls does exactly that.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.