"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Would you say this girl is a 9?

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I never got the hang of the number scale. I rate women "not bangable, bangable, hot" The girl in the OP is just bangable.

I think bangable may be near universal, but "hot" will always be subjective.
 

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some of these responses are comical.... the guys that admit she is hot and bangable ovviously live in the real world... I'd pay money to see some of these dilluisional nerds who act like she is subpar. Personally I would probably eat this girl out
 

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Lotus Effect said:
The question that keeps revolving in my head is:

OP. Why do you wanna know? Are you going to f*ck her?

If that is not the case, than this thread is pointless. And I agree with Tictac!
Because he's promoting his site with a pointless thread....
But at least he's not name calling.... He'd be banned for that contribution...
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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My scale goes: Wouldn't fvck, Would fvck, Would Eat.

She's teetering between would fvck and would eat in that black dress.
 

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Average height for a women in America is 5'3. I like shorter to average sized women. I would say she is a solid 6. Attractive, but nothing special. Seen a lot of better looking girls then here. She is no where near a 9 or 8 if she is you need to get SOME standards. This is the type of chick most dudes probably banging on here in terms of looks
 

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PeasantPlayer said:
Average height for a women in America is 5'3. I like shorter to average sized women. I would say she is a solid 6. Attractive, but nothing special. Seen a lot of better looking girls then here. She is no where near a 9 or 8 if she is you need to get SOME standards. This is the type of chick most dudes probably banging on here in terms of looks
Hah...what the fvck. See this is why the number system is nothing but subjective bullsh!t. What does a 6 even mean to you? With the obesity rate over 50% we should all be able to agree that she's at least above average. I seriously doubt, especially with all the whiny threads that pop up on the regular, that most dudes here are banging chicks on her level. I'd like to see what you're 7s, 8s, and 9s are. As a matter of fact it would be interesting to see everyone's list. That would prove that there is no consensus on looks after a certain point. I'm sure we can all agree on who's bangable and who's not but after that it's all a matter of personal tastes.
 

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JoeMarron said:
Hah...what the fvck. See this is why the number system is nothing but subjective bullsh!t. What does a 6 even mean to you? With the obesity rate over 50% we should all be able to agree that she's at least above average. I seriously doubt, especially with all the whiny threads that pop up on the regular, that most dudes here are banging chicks on her level. I'd like to see what you're 7s, 8s, and 9s are. As a matter of fact it would be interesting to see everyone's list. That would prove that there is no consensus on looks after a certain point. I'm sure we can all agree on who's bangable and who's not but after that it's all a matter of personal tastes.
I agree, it's pretty ridiculous. I wonder how many guys gave this girl a low rating then beat off to her pics :crackup:

If any dude met this girl in real life, and she was a decent person (as in not a b*tch), you'd either rate her a 7+ or I'd highly suspect you were gay. No, I'd be pretty sure you were gay. I understand there are differences in tastes, but give me a f*cking break.
 

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Yewki said:
I agree, it's pretty ridiculous. I wonder how many guys gave this girl a low rating then beat off to her pics :crackup:

If any dude met this girl in real life, and she was a decent person (as in not a b*tch), you'd either rate her a 7+ or I'd highly suspect you were gay. No, I'd be pretty sure you were gay. I understand there are differences in tastes, but give me a f*cking break.
defensive much?

good for you if you consider her a 9. at least you go through life a lot more easier to please than me. don't sweat it. the only one losing out by rating her a 5 here is me.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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She is a 6 and I am being kind. I like curvier women and to be honest she looks like high end trailer trash. But yes I would bang her she is ****able. I think the guys rating her a 7-9 are the BETA males....I mean think it about it. a 9? Are you kidding me that is the best of the best.
 

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betheman said:
8 max, IRL 7
My thoughts too.

I'd go 8 on a good day because she has a look that I particularly like...skinny/fit dark haired girls who are on the petite side and she has a beautiful face. But she loses at least a point because her boobs look fake in a couple of pics. I like small boobs and not into fake tits at all.

In fact if they are fake, she drops to a 6 imo. She might pick up a point with her butt but we dont really see it in those pics. Butts are a big factor for me.

When girls take care of themselves and keep it natural even the little flaws score points in my book. So many hot girls who have no idea.

But like the OP said, it's pretty subjective. Which is why I don't put a lot of stock in the number system. It's not just a lack of standards or higher standards...Even if we could agree on that every guy has a different type they prefer. Some like petite, some tall, some curvy, etc.
 

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Don_Dom said:
When girls take care of themselves and keep it natural even the little flaws score points in my book. So many hot girls who have no idea.
Very true, a lot of women out there genuinely think they're hot **** just because they have some fake but trademark qualities. Things like drawn eyebrows, duck lips, huge fake tits, overblown makeup. Trying to emulate some poorly conceived, stereotypical "hot babe" because they think that's what guys want... I've seen otherwise decent looking girls transform themselves into what looks to be some type of clown looking creature from someone's nightmare, and they legit think they look sexy. So delusional it's sad.
 

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You guys must be from mall homogenous towns this girl is a 6 at best. Kardashian and Adraina Limas and of the such would be considered 9s. I am just using hollywood people because they are more known and have been seen a lot of television
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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body is great but her face lets it down just a little, maybe a 7 going by those pics for me, the crayon pic rack helps :p
 

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a 5, way too skinny for me, no chance I would talk to her.

I like fat ass round latinas
 

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Yewki said:
I've seen otherwise decent looking girls transform themselves into what looks to be some type of clown looking creature from someone's nightmare, and they legit think they look sexy. So delusional it's sad.
LoL
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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