Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Would you marry a woman if she gave it up on the 1st date?

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Had a debate with a friend about this. Doesn't necessarily have to be marriage, but would you discourage any potential LTR with a woman if she gives it up on the 1st date?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Who Dares Win

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Yes, all the girls which I considered more than fvck buddies were never easy at the beginning.

They never played games and always shown themselves interested and open to me but very gradually, they facilitated my life and even helped many times but gave sex slowly and gradually.

On the other side I have plenty of fvck buddies which gave me sex very fast but were a source of mind games, bullsh1t, head aches and other sh1t.
 

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What about if she already knew you. You knew from up front, she usually made guys wait quite a while.

And she finally got you. And she's like "why keep this charade up?" and has sex with you on the first actual date, because she really likes you. And you where the only one.

Would you look down upon her then?
 

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if you cant sleep with a girl shortly after meeting her you missed the timing or she dont dig you that much. The thing that makes me miss timings is principles, I dwell on principles, then Im sure they are like "Is he gonna fuk me or what". Since I quit jerkin off things like physicall escalation are a joke to me I have no worries there the **** takes control. But I really need to clear moral out of my system as a girl friend of mine says: "You cant put moral and sex in the same sentance". Like I work at a hotel, heres a good one - "shall I sleep with girl who also has a boyfriend on my shift". Just say hell ye, and it becomes easy.

Look, I fuked up like this a few days ago, meet the girl everything is fine, Im having a nap on the reception couch, she comes at like 3 AM and wakes me up, Im like "****, Immo go there and sleep with her, she sends a text, some dudes come steal what they can then I have to work for nothing till I pay it off". Its **** like this I need to get over, couse theres alot of material in this place.

If Immo live for the pusy, immo have to be ready to die for the pusy to put it this way.

every girl is easy, its just the right man at the right place at the right time + raw chemistry which means biologically your offspring will be strong

this is why a girl can be attractive to one guy but no so much to another and in reverse, and its your nose that detects it rather than the eyes, hence - the scent of a woman
 

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I would have no problem with being in a LTR but the chick, because of social programming, will probably have an issue.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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badboyjmm said:
I would have no problem with being in a LTR but the chick, because of social programming, will probably have an issue.
So your belief is current social programming is making it nearly impossible to have a good relationship?

Never thought about it that way.
 

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...yeah - sorry, but you're asking the wrong question.

Realistically, you wouldn't know if the woman was someone you wanted to marry until you've dated them for a while - and even THEN, you could be wrong.

I had a buddy from college who was a virgin when he got married, to a woman who was also a virgin. 2.5 years and 1 kid later, they got divorced. So, despite her not giving it up on the first night - or at all during their relationship - it wasn't able to work out for reasons outside of sex (although sex - or lack thereof - also played a factor).

Meanwhile, there are women who have been married 20+ years to a guy whom they had sex with on a first date. You have to remember, when dealing with people there are more factors involved in determining what makes a "good woman" beyond her first night activities. There are also numerous reasons as to why a woman would give it up on the first night that don't involve her being a slvt. Maybe it was a year since she had any and she thought you looked attractive. Maybe she didn't plan to have sex with you, but the way you acted that night was so smooth that she went along with YOUR advanced moves when you started making them. Heck, maybe she WAS a slvt and thought you'd be another notch on her belt, and it turned out she felt a genuine connection with you that lasted long-term.

All that to say: her giving it up on the first date shouldn't deter any man from being with a woman long-term. Plus, isn't that backwards thinking? If she's giving it up the first night, that means YOU are doing the same thing! #nohypocrisy
 

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^That was great Harry.
 

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Harry Wilmington said:
All that to say: her giving it up on the first date shouldn't deter any man from being with a woman long-term. Plus, isn't that backwards thinking? If she's giving it up the first night, that means YOU are doing the same thing! #nohypocrisy
Precisely.

Don't be too into the thrill of the chase. It's okay to be a success with a woman and have her submit to you from the beginning. Early frame is a good thing.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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mrgoodstuff said:
So your belief is current social programming is making it nearly impossible to have a good relationship?

Never thought about it that way.
It a weird thing. In my experience, the girls had issues with the fact that we hook up on the first date. For that reason, I never was able to meet a girl after we hook up so quickly.
 

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Harry Wilmington said:
...yeah - sorry, but you're asking the wrong question.

Realistically, you wouldn't know if the woman was someone you wanted to marry until you've dated them for a while - and even THEN, you could be wrong.

I had a buddy from college who was a virgin when he got married, to a woman who was also a virgin. 2.5 years and 1 kid later, they got divorced. So, despite her not giving it up on the first night - or at all during their relationship - it wasn't able to work out for reasons outside of sex (although sex - or lack thereof - also played a factor).

Meanwhile, there are women who have been married 20+ years to a guy whom they had sex with on a first date. You have to remember, when dealing with people there are more factors involved in determining what makes a "good woman" beyond her first night activities. There are also numerous reasons as to why a woman would give it up on the first night that don't involve her being a slvt. Maybe it was a year since she had any and she thought you looked attractive. Maybe she didn't plan to have sex with you, but the way you acted that night was so smooth that she went along with YOUR advanced moves when you started making them. Heck, maybe she WAS a slvt and thought you'd be another notch on her belt, and it turned out she felt a genuine connection with you that lasted long-term.

All that to say: her giving it up on the first date shouldn't deter any man from being with a woman long-term. Plus, isn't that backwards thinking? If she's giving it up the first night, that means YOU are doing the same thing! #nohypocrisy
Good post. And I agree, one has to look at the entire package.

No girl I've dated seriously or casually has made me wait longer than a few weeks for sex. Usually the chemistry is right and there's no need for any "rules" or counting days.

Yeah sometimes people like to stick to their rules, but when the moment's right and the connection is great, go with the flow.
 

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I'd look down on her if she made me WAIT and played bull**** games. Is this a serious question?
 
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