"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
would you date a girl with kids?
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Seriously though, Pump and Dump Bro. You shoulda learned from the last one. You know in your heart you aren't gonna play house with this chic nor take care of her kids. So have your fun and move along. Also remember, she'll let you hit it raw, but she won't abort...just a nice little reminder for ya.
5string
Master Don Juan
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
5string
Master Don Juan
Yea I did. The OP asked if you should get with a girl with kids.Kerpal said:
The answer is no.
Attraction isn't a choice. Attraction never changes. What does change are motivational priorities—like a girl getting knocked up by the strong dominant male and then finding a beta provider, or the other way around with cuckoldry. The whole notion of girls finally "realizing" through "maturity" in their mid-twenties they like nice guys is a canard.
Go young.
5string
Master Don Juan
IMO, you don't. Then nothing else matters.
In my case as I explained, it cost me the best years of my life. So, I tell others that single mommies are not worth your time and can damage one deeply. If you want one for a FB, that's fine. The key is not to become emotionally attached or you'll be spending your weekends at Chucky Cheese and changing diapers in the park on your time off. Oh, and have fun being second in her life, dealing with a fvcked up baby daddy who just got out of prison while you save every spare dime for college tuition.
5string
Master Don Juan
Well, that's a good question. I could do it without much problem but I don't.Kerpal said:
I do think most guys could as women in general have been taught that it's ok to get with older men. If they have money and status, then they'll go much older and not think twice about it.
Drdeee
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A girl that is 22 with 2 kids you have to understand is not a good catch, and she probably is looking for something serious, preferably with a guy who has a lot of cash.
If you ever marry a girl like that those kids will be yours, and if you ever divorce her, you'd pay child support for them. Plus there is no telling she wouldn't make 3rd 4th and 5th kids with other guys while with you. Bad catch.
Now, goats have kids. People have children. That's why you will never hear elites talk about their children as kids. We call ours kids because there is no distinction for us, because we are not aware of the esoteric/hidden societies of people who control us through politician puppets.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Mr.Positive
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I think this is the crux of this whole thread, and leads to some confusion...Drdeee said:
Yes, feel free to "date" a girl with kids, but don't get serious with her. Don't fall into the trap of becoming her beta provider. If you have the knowledge on how things work, you can avoid that. It's the guys that have no clue that get hooked into that scheme.
Or, like 5string says, avoid them completely. Personally, I avoid them completely. I don't want the drama attached, even for something not serious. But, other guys could have some fun there as long as you don't take these women seriously.
Drdee is right. These women however are looking for a serious relationship to cash in and be taken care of. Be careful.
My two bits.
PRMoon
Master Don Juan
I would date a single mom given the right set of circumstances. Ex wife of a former millionaire with a pricy pad of her own. I imagine I could wear that boot for a few months. ProvWon't have to pay for that much, likely go to some classy parties & make some connections, maybe a few parting gifts before the whole thing reaches it's conclusion. Seems like a good risk vs. reward situation to me.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
WhitePimp
Master Don Juan
I've dated single moms. Yeah, you get a few who are nuts and want each interaction to be about their kids. Those are the bad ones that you just smash and dash.
But I've dated a few that were quite good about not even letting me meet her kids. They understand that it's NOT your responsibility and don't want every interaction to be about the kids. Basically, once the kids are a bit older, then the mom wants to have her own life back. Then it's good. I casually dated one PR chick for 2 years with 2 kids and not once did I even meet her kids. It was awesome and she was very cool
Desdinova
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The women who have their children full time are problematic. They don't have any time for you, and their children are their priority. In other words, they can slip you into their schedule when the grandparents are feeling energetic enough to take the kids for the evening which is at most, once a week. They're okay for an occasional lay, but not much good for anything else.
All single mothers are NOT relationship material.
Solomon
Master Don Juan
Even the widows?Desdinova said:
Solomon said:
yes even the widows. i tried it and it blew up in my face big time! lesson learned. look at it this way, it's hard enough competing with some baby daddy who's alive and isn't in the pic....now try competing with a guy whos dead and shes still in love with, combined with mourning over him. trust me, everything you do or dont do will remind her of the dead guy, she will always compare him to you and you will always lose because shes emotionally connected to him in a different way then if he was alive and "making her life hell". she will never get over the dead guy.....ever.........................EVER.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.