"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
would you date a girl with kids?
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Seriously though, Pump and Dump Bro. You shoulda learned from the last one. You know in your heart you aren't gonna play house with this chic nor take care of her kids. So have your fun and move along. Also remember, she'll let you hit it raw, but she won't abort...just a nice little reminder for ya.
5string
Master Don Juan
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
5string
Master Don Juan
Yea I did. The OP asked if you should get with a girl with kids.Kerpal said:
The answer is no.
Attraction isn't a choice. Attraction never changes. What does change are motivational priorities—like a girl getting knocked up by the strong dominant male and then finding a beta provider, or the other way around with cuckoldry. The whole notion of girls finally "realizing" through "maturity" in their mid-twenties they like nice guys is a canard.
Go young.
5string
Master Don Juan
IMO, you don't. Then nothing else matters.
In my case as I explained, it cost me the best years of my life. So, I tell others that single mommies are not worth your time and can damage one deeply. If you want one for a FB, that's fine. The key is not to become emotionally attached or you'll be spending your weekends at Chucky Cheese and changing diapers in the park on your time off. Oh, and have fun being second in her life, dealing with a fvcked up baby daddy who just got out of prison while you save every spare dime for college tuition.
5string
Master Don Juan
Well, that's a good question. I could do it without much problem but I don't.Kerpal said:
I do think most guys could as women in general have been taught that it's ok to get with older men. If they have money and status, then they'll go much older and not think twice about it.
Drdeee
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A girl that is 22 with 2 kids you have to understand is not a good catch, and she probably is looking for something serious, preferably with a guy who has a lot of cash.
If you ever marry a girl like that those kids will be yours, and if you ever divorce her, you'd pay child support for them. Plus there is no telling she wouldn't make 3rd 4th and 5th kids with other guys while with you. Bad catch.
Now, goats have kids. People have children. That's why you will never hear elites talk about their children as kids. We call ours kids because there is no distinction for us, because we are not aware of the esoteric/hidden societies of people who control us through politician puppets.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Mr.Positive
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I think this is the crux of this whole thread, and leads to some confusion...Drdeee said:
Yes, feel free to "date" a girl with kids, but don't get serious with her. Don't fall into the trap of becoming her beta provider. If you have the knowledge on how things work, you can avoid that. It's the guys that have no clue that get hooked into that scheme.
Or, like 5string says, avoid them completely. Personally, I avoid them completely. I don't want the drama attached, even for something not serious. But, other guys could have some fun there as long as you don't take these women seriously.
Drdee is right. These women however are looking for a serious relationship to cash in and be taken care of. Be careful.
My two bits.
PRMoon
Master Don Juan
I would date a single mom given the right set of circumstances. Ex wife of a former millionaire with a pricy pad of her own. I imagine I could wear that boot for a few months. ProvWon't have to pay for that much, likely go to some classy parties & make some connections, maybe a few parting gifts before the whole thing reaches it's conclusion. Seems like a good risk vs. reward situation to me.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
WhitePimp
Master Don Juan
I've dated single moms. Yeah, you get a few who are nuts and want each interaction to be about their kids. Those are the bad ones that you just smash and dash.
But I've dated a few that were quite good about not even letting me meet her kids. They understand that it's NOT your responsibility and don't want every interaction to be about the kids. Basically, once the kids are a bit older, then the mom wants to have her own life back. Then it's good. I casually dated one PR chick for 2 years with 2 kids and not once did I even meet her kids. It was awesome and she was very cool
Desdinova
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The women who have their children full time are problematic. They don't have any time for you, and their children are their priority. In other words, they can slip you into their schedule when the grandparents are feeling energetic enough to take the kids for the evening which is at most, once a week. They're okay for an occasional lay, but not much good for anything else.
All single mothers are NOT relationship material.
Solomon
Master Don Juan
Even the widows?Desdinova said:
Solomon said:
yes even the widows. i tried it and it blew up in my face big time! lesson learned. look at it this way, it's hard enough competing with some baby daddy who's alive and isn't in the pic....now try competing with a guy whos dead and shes still in love with, combined with mourning over him. trust me, everything you do or dont do will remind her of the dead guy, she will always compare him to you and you will always lose because shes emotionally connected to him in a different way then if he was alive and "making her life hell". she will never get over the dead guy.....ever.........................EVER.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.