"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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The most funny thing is she told me I need to stop doing all those things because it ruins me being a "nice guy". And she does those things more than I do.

I should have told her to stop smoking and drinking, since it turns her into a slut and ruins her being a nice girl.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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My Name is Nobody said:
The most funny thing is she told me I need to stop doing all those things like smoking and drinking because it ruins me being a "nice guy". And she does those things just as much if not more than I do.

I should have told her to stop smoking and drinking, since it turns her into a slut and ruins her being a nice girl.
That doesn't make her to be a hor - it is her values and mindset that does this! You chose her so she is just being who she is - you knew this on the first so-called "date"!!
 
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I think what she meant I am not a "nice guy" is I wasn't a sucker and bought her stuff, paid for everything, kissed her butt, etc etc.. go find another sucker lady.
After all she didn't even have a job and lived with her parents droped out of school..

If that was us guys, we would be considered a huge loser but somehow it's acceptable if she is an attractive girl?
 

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My Name is Nobody said:
I think what she meant I am not a "nice guy" is I wasn't a sucker and bought her stuff, paid for everything, etc etc.. go find another sucker lady.
Yet he sarges a woman like this:
My Name is Nobody said:
After all she didn't even have a job and lived with her parents droped out of school..
Think the guy is setting himself up?
My Name is Nobody said:
If that was us guys, we would be considered a huge loser but somehow it's acceptable if she is an attractive girl?
This is why it's important to qualify especially after taking the path of the DJ. Why would a DJ want to sarge the same type of woman he sarged as a AFC? Madness... :crazy:

This is why you can't just "act" like a DJ, it's a lifestyle and a mindset. Basically, all of your perceptions about women needs to change in order to sidestep the majority of the madness.

Learn from the experience. Identify what went wrong. Adjust. Continue along your path.
 

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if someone is so flippy floppy this early on... do you question their interest level invested in you? do you question their interest levels in their own life?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I guess I was just happy to move on from the NYE chic. I still get upset thinking about that... I suppose I'm still not completely over that one.
 

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There's no difference.

Either something else is more desirable to her than meeting you - or it isn't. A woman won't let something she's more concerned with go by merely because she gave her 'word'.

If she's BSing, it's because you didn't rate highly enough in her eyes. Rate more highly next time.
God i hate that fact.... you can only beat that by having other women...LOL
 
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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What if she couldn't afford the food, what if she didn't know what to get, what if she wanted you guys to go together to get the food, what if she was afraid it would spoil by the time she brought it over, what if she didn't want to carry it, what if she wanted you to surprise her with what you were cooking instead.

So what if she didnt' bring some food, at least she showed up. It sounds like you are more upset you had to pay for the food and cook for her rather than her going back on her word.
women get too many damn what ifs ..... We dont get that many at all ,... screw up some psycho dating rule bull**** and we are out.
 

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Here's some warning signs to look for...

1. Superficial charm and good intelligence
2. Absence of delusions and other signs of irrational thinking
3. Absence of nervousness or psychoneurotic manifestations
4. Unreliability
5. Untruthfulness and insincerity
6. Lack of remorse and shame
7. Inadequately motivated antisocial behavior
8. Poor judgment and failure to learn by experience
9. Pathologic egocentricity and incapacity for love
10. General poverty in major affective reactions
11. Specific loss of insight
12. Unresponsiveness in general interpersonal relations
13. Fantastic and uninviting behavior with drink and sometimes without
14. Suicide rarely carried out
15. Sex life impersonal, trivial, and poorly integrated
16. Failure to follow any life plan
Wow that sounds like your average human living in a capitalist society....LOL
 

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DonGorgon said:
Young women in 2008 have very little respect for men... cause they dont need to.
That's what I was getting at.
 

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Wow that sounds like your average human living in a capitalist society....LOL
And what does Capitalism have to do with it? :woo:
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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All those symptoms tend to represent in humans living under excessively capitalist societal conditions. and the sad assumption is that more money will make everything okay...
That's not Capitalism. That's what people who don't have the means that they would like call Capitalism. Capitalism isn't about money, it's about production; money is just a byproduct. A person's seeming dependence on money is something completely different.
 

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My ex was just the same way, get out while you can, she'll keep breaking her promises I CERTAIN of it. Don't start a relationship with people like this, befriending them is ok, just don't date them, cause you'll end up frustrated by it, dump her and feel hurt yourself by doing so.
 

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...Don't start a relationship with people like this, befriending them is ok, just don't date them, cause you'll end up frustrated by it, dump her and feel hurt yourself by doing so.
But what exactly does befriending them mean? Sounds like you'd be tapping into an emotional line that would suck the life out of you. Guys can't seem to tell ahead of time when a woman is just using them as a means to build themselves up. The guy reads too much into it and ends up in that bad place and ultimately creates a thread b1tching about it to the rest of us; all because he couldn't completely walk away. Befriending sounds "nice" but way too often it requires the guy sacrificing himself.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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