"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Why "Hi I'm Joe Shmo. Whats your name" doesnt work

dirtyvibe

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It will only work on a good looking girl if you're physically attractive.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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dirtyvibe

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Originally posted by DJinT
Thank you captain obvious.
it should also work with social proof arround you if youre ugly
 

Nighthawk

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It wouldn't work for me because my name isn't Joe Shmo.

Actually if you actually introduced yourself as 'Joe Shmo' you would at least get some interest, more if it actually was your real name. Bizarrely, my brother and I have the same first name and it drives girls crazy how this could be (we don't tell them, naturally). So, er, change your name to Joe Shmo and get laid!
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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While I agree that it's not the best opener to use, it can still work.

It really depends on your projected confidence level. If it's high enough almost anything can work.

Mini-fr to demonstrate.

I was in a bar playing darts, spotted a girl that interested me in a group of guys/girls.

I walked up, said hello and introduced myself to all of them and got their names.

Turned to the girl I was interested in, said 'let's go play pool' and walked away.

She followed, we played some pool. I got her number and we ended up going out for a while.

My state of mind at the time was that the answer was a given. I didn't ask her to play pool, or ask for her number I made a statement and fully believed in the result.

It was actually an eye-opener for me in a way, since it was the first time I've tried just staying in a strong state of mind rather than using more scripted openers and acting disinterested.
 

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I totally agree projecting confidence is a major part. Once you master the confidence part (I am still working on it- but do pretty good) you will see that what you say play a smaller and smaller part in the actual pick up.

Girls find confidence very attractive.
 

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It doesn't work because you can't open with an IoI. This is a DLV that places the girl above you and makes her the prize.

In girl logic it's about the same level as a compliment about her looks.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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wheelin&dealin

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Originally posted by dirtyvibe
It will only work on a good looking girl if you're physically attractive.
You can pretty much say whatever you want to a girl and it will work if you know what you're doing. I told a girl today that we should go do some karaoke and sing some backstreet boys.. She was lovin me.
 
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