Josh Davidson
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I often get women's phone numbers when I ask for them but rarely get first dates, and never second dates with the same woman or sex.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
What specifically could I be doing wrong?
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Josh Davidson
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I wait two or three days before I text them and try to arrange a meet up. I don't know of anything I do that would turn them off. I sometimes get the "I'll let you know" text from women.
Josh Davidson
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I ask for her number and she is like: "sure" and gives it to me
Josh Davidson
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I wouldn't necessarily say that she seems excited to give me her number
Josh Davidson
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Me: Hi (her name). This is Josh. We met at (name of bar) on (day of the week). I'm gonna be at (name of bar) on (day of the week) at (time) do you wanna join me? Her: I can't I have to work then. Me: Do you wanna meet up some other time? Her: I'll let you know. [Of course she doesn't]
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Josh Davidson
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How do I built rapport with her specifically. (I also happen to have asperger's syndrome (mild autism) so I don't have very good social skills but want to learn)
Josh Davidson
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Ok. Thank you!
lost_blackbird
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You're not alone here my friend. I have stumbled my way through interpersonal
and romantic relationships my whole life, failed friendships all over the place, failed marriage and
an imminent divorce. I'm 48 in a few weeks and I'm no wiser with this stuff than than when I was 14.
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That's because giving out a number is no big deal for most women. It really isn't even a sign of interest. They know it is far easier for them to give out their number and reject a guy via text than in person where things could escalate or the guy could handle it badly and then they may be in physical danger.
You are misinterpreting getting her number as a sign of interest when it isn't.
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"I'll let you know" = I'm not really interested.
Women are not going to tell you no directly. They prefer to fob guys off with excuses. Excuse = not interested.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
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