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Touching girls vs letting them touch you first. What works?

Konada

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As above. What's your take on kino for first dates? I'm starting to think I might be getting blown off for initiating kino rather than letting them come to me...
 

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Nope, touch them first but it can be anything.. Shaking hands, sharing a small couch, high 5's, whatever you do though, do it with confidence as if you already know she wants you to do it, otherwise you come across as an insecure creep.
 

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I've seen lots of extensive commentary on kino, but in my experience there's no need to overthink it. If you're on a first date hug her when she gets there, chat and give a high five when she shares something impressive she accomplished or as a joke about some silly she did.

After that, how she will let you touch her is more about how much she's attracted to you and trusts you. Just be genuinely interested in her, playfully tease, and laugh, and in an hour or two they'll be open to holding hands, going for a drive, whatever.

Don't overthink kino and focus on continuing to build raport, displaying confidence, laughing and having fun, and gradually escalate, and by the end of the night she will want you more than you want her.
 

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The short answer is both will work but I think it has more to do with your personality as to which you choose. I'm very muscular, full of testosterone and aggressive both in terms of actions and looks. I always touch first and get very good results from it. However I do it in a relaxed manner, as part of conversation and it seems completely normal.

It works for me because it comes across congruent to my personality, how I act, and what the woman is expecting. It comes across as natural for me to do that.

I think if others tried the same thing it might not work as well if they have a different personality than me, or if the woman is expecting something else.

Either way, both methods work, so choose the one that fits your personality best.
 

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Jesus Christ. Now we're over thinking touching.
 

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The short answer is both will work but I think it has more to do with your personality as to which you choose. I'm very muscular, full of testosterone and aggressive both in terms of actions and looks. I always touch first and get very good results from it. However I do it in a relaxed manner, as part of conversation and it seems completely normal.

It works for me because it comes across congruent to my personality, how I act, and what the woman is expecting. It comes across as natural for me to do that.

I think if others tried the same thing it might not work as well if they have a different personality than me, or if the woman is expecting something else.

Either way, both methods work, so choose the one that fits your personality best.
Especially betas it always fails for betas
 

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Jesus Christ what is this thread. Pathetic indeed
 

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C'mon, be kind to the OP. He asked a genuine question. For people new at this seduction can be like painting by numbers. It takes a while for some people to realise it doesn't matter what or how they paint so long as they have fun doing it and are confident.
 

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Doc says don't touch them... I agree.

Not a cold fish, just a slow fish.
 

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Why overthink this?

Let the girl come to you: Far less likely. You need to initiate and continually calibrate properly.

Touch her first: You're likely gonna have to do this with confidence even if it means she might pull away.

I'd rather initiate, but not overkill. Overkill scares her off, and not initiating at all can get you pegged as a female friend. Find your balance.

The answer is clear. The decision is yours alone motherf**ker.
 

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So I am a confessed grabber. Between being tall and a good talker I normally get the desired results, eject or progress.

But I d love to know how the nonchalant crowd do it. I m an analyst by trade so fish/water. I ve asked on a heap of threads and never got any specific answers.

@wifehunter I m curious if u don't escalate physically on a date how do u screen out time wasters?

And how do u escalate non-physically to avoid being friend zoned.
 

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I tend to overdo Kino. And I'm living in a very conservative country.

I had a date with a woman a few weeks ago, and stroked her upper arm a couple of times. I didn't hear from her, I thought she blew me off. But I am now back in contact with her, where we have a date organized for this weekend.

The good thing is, the kino established that our relationship would be orientated a certain way. If she wasn't interested, she would have ignored my recent text.

Why the three week wait? I'd say she had time to think about it, and then perhaps realized how lonely she is, and then her curiosity grew to the point of wanting to check me out again.
 
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So I am a confessed grabber. Between being tall and a good talker I normally get the desired results, eject or progress.

But I d love to know how the nonchalant crowd do it. I m an analyst by trade so fish/water. I ve asked on a heap of threads and never got any specific answers.

@wifehunter I m curious if u don't escalate physically on a date how do u screen out time wasters?

And how do u escalate non-physically to avoid being friend zoned.
Doc's got class. Most pua's seem sleezy.

Be a catch, and never end up in the friend zone.

If she thinks all you want is sex, you're done.
 

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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Doc's got class. Most pua's seem sleezy.

Be a catch, and never end up in the friend zone.

If she thinks all you want is sex, you're done.
Not true, I used to touch first all the time, without apologies and did whatever I wanted. It got me labeled as a bad boy, and it made them want to have sex with me, so I'm disagreeing with that
 

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If your built AWESOME don't the tables turn in your favour, like your the "hot girl" and they are the lusty eyed guys? So you would do a very light kino if any, like a hug or something and lay back and wait for them to pinch your bicep, your pec, your thigh or your ass... They would hold you a little longer on a hug, and feel your strong back...
 

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Depends on the girl. An AW will lose interest if you're too aggressive
I'm glad you pointed that out, they want all the attention... I'm still not super good with them. I mean if they want you like a piece of meat it's easy, but sometimes they lay back and if you go to them they will back off, it's like messing with a cat and I still don't have the process down for AW's.
 

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You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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