You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
How would I go to Monaco? I’m not rich. Give your head a shake and have some gratitude for your accomplishmentsI am not "rich"
I can live comfortably within my means but that is only because i don't indulge in buying things i don't need or feel the need to show off to others
Sadly most rich people aren't happy they sold themselves to get to where they are trampling over people and making others lives a misery even with the most muted conscience this darkens the soul
On top of that the people that are usually around them are just interlopers hanging around for the ride whilst the going's good
If you get a chance go to Monaco and witness it for your self
It's just endless d1ck swinging and competing
So utterly pointless
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Once you've had it in the ear, there's simply no going back.Maybe try listening to this song over and over?
Thank you.... I am in a similar funk. Found this forum in 2002. Life was so exciting.. started focusing on myself. Got in crazy shape, was blessed with great genetics 6ft4.. started pulling chicks left and right, traveling the world.... 20 years later I have all the money I need... top of my career and I find myself withdrawing from life.Now, what you are having is what’s known as an existential crisis. Maslows hierarchy is filled. You are now on the top tier and are looking for spiritual fulfilment.
See heres the thing i don't believe having children and family ultimately brings the "ultimate satisfaction" many seem to believe it doesIt’s hard for me to get excited about the things that used to excite me. I feel like the only thing that would bring satisfaction back to my life would be having kids and passing on all the stuff I learned over my lifetime and watching them grow and blow my achievements out of the water.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
. Damn.About 2 years ago i ended a 4 year LTR because i wanted too try and become this multimillionaire high flying businessman
Well that wasn't the sole reason but i definitely felt something was lacking mainly because i had been subconsciously trained for so many years to "want nice things". Damn.
You sound like Camus or Sartre. I've been there so I can speak from experience, and ironically reading Camus and Sartre gave me a lot of comfort. Just like listening to Radiohead makes me happy, an oxymoron of some sort.About 2 years ago i ended a 4 year LTR because i wanted too try and become this multimillionaire high flying businessman
I feel this archetype is often sold to young men as the pinnacle of existence
So i ended the relationship I moved city , expanded my side hustle and really pushed myself out of my comfort zone
Fast forward to today and i don't know i feel kind of lost , in the last year i have started to realise that money and status don't really bring that much happiness they just allow a certain level of freedom and autonomy which is nice but pretty useless when everyone else is willingly involved in the "matrix"
i place very little value in materialistic goods and i am finding the majority of people i meet are very empty and are usually obsessed with their "image" or body and seem to be very easily swayed by whatever the latest widespread hysteria is
( COVID , LGBT , BLM , Ukraine war , Inflation )..... to name a few plot lines in the last couple of years
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I have also lost all interest in alcohol and partying i did use this as my outlet in my 20's but now i am tired of it and also feel its changed quite a lot in the last few years if i got out now i feel like i am forcing myself out
I did try going to church for a bit , some of it did make sense and there were some nice people there
but i was also starting to get some cult like vibes so i don't go very much anymore
I get most of my enjoyment now from hiking and interacting with any animals i see on my travels , unfortunately we are in the heart of the winter in the UK and obviously i can't get out much
I am starting to wonder is this it ? it seems like nearly everyone on the planet is chasing a never ending pit of money / debt and how many "things" can i buy with my money
How do people cope with the banality of life ?
I often wondered whilst i was younger why so many people had children given the amount of time and resources they consume , now i am starting to understand there actually isn't a great deal else to do![]()
I´ve been thinking about this recently. Most guys here spend their life pursuing money and/or puzzy and when they get it they arent really happy.Your best route is to serve others at this point. Volunteer, be kind to your fellow humans.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Not yet i have about 4 books on the go at the moment i can't take anymore material on just yet lol@Bingo-Player You start reading Camus yet?
Also, as others have mentioned stoicism is a great tool and philosophy. I use an app called the stoic, it gives you about 5 quotes a day randomly from well known stoics to reflect on. I open that app and start reading whenever I feel a negative emotion coming on during the day. Another thing worth doing is journaling which pairs along with stoicism as well. I think a lot of guys use this forum as a means of venting and journaling in a way. But having your thoughts on paper for you and you alone can be cathartic. I open word doc at least twice a day and just write whatever the hell is going on upstairs. Helped me a metric **** ton
Yes i concur but i do believe that you need to be very very careful about WHOM you serveYour best route is to serve others at this point. Volunteer, be kind to your fellow humans, travel, and seek other cultures' perspectives. You will find it's been in you all this time but buried by social constructs and mirages.
Every man has a mission that he feel his importance in that mission, the mission has to include in somehow helping/improving/teaching other people. You need to learn how to give to feel that fulfillment.About 2 years ago i ended a 4 year LTR because i wanted too try and become this multimillionaire high flying businessman
I feel this archetype is often sold to young men as the pinnacle of existence
So i ended the relationship I moved city , expanded my side hustle and really pushed myself out of my comfort zone
Fast forward to today and i don't know i feel kind of lost , in the last year i have started to realise that money and status don't really bring that much happiness they just allow a certain level of freedom and autonomy which is nice but pretty useless when everyone else is willingly involved in the "matrix"
i place very little value in materialistic goods and i am finding the majority of people i meet are very empty and are usually obsessed with their "image" or body and seem to be very easily swayed by whatever the latest widespread hysteria is
( COVID , LGBT , BLM , Ukraine war , Inflation )..... to name a few plot lines in the last couple of years
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I have also lost all interest in alcohol and partying i did use this as my outlet in my 20's but now i am tired of it and also feel its changed quite a lot in the last few years if i got out now i feel like i am forcing myself out
I did try going to church for a bit , some of it did make sense and there were some nice people there
but i was also starting to get some cult like vibes so i don't go very much anymore
I get most of my enjoyment now from hiking and interacting with any animals i see on my travels , unfortunately we are in the heart of the winter in the UK and obviously i can't get out much
I am starting to wonder is this it ? it seems like nearly everyone on the planet is chasing a never ending pit of money / debt and how many "things" can i buy with my money
How do people cope with the banality of life ?
I often wondered whilst i was younger why so many people had children given the amount of time and resources they consume , now i am starting to understand there actually isn't a great deal else to do![]()