"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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mr_elor said:
I wonder...

If you're going for a sbtle approach, maybe masquerading as a shiny AFC woukld be best. You could pose thoughts and questions that you know is true about women, and whenb someone tries to reassure you (using their AFC logic), counter them with logic, but from the point of view of an AFC. Something like:

you: "It's like every hot girl isn't interested in nice guys. All I get for being nice is a kiss on the cheek" (I think you may have actually said this)

them: "No no it's fine. Honestly, eventually you'll find that special girl who loves you for who you are"

you: "but it shouldn't take that long. I mean is there no way I can get a decent woman now? Is there no way i can put this in my own hands?"
I've been playing the role of AFC, but there is some beeotch named Muse or something over there that insists that Nighthawk (Mr.Collector) and I (Dagger Kockburn) are the same person. Elor, I will respond to your thread right now with some AFC logic, and you can hit me back with some knowledge.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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God, will someone back me up in the "Second Chances" forum?

It has got to be the most pathetic forum on there.

Heh, I get called "jaded" because I tell a guy if his ex wanted to be with him she would.
 

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Now my posting rights have been suspended while a mod takes 24-48 hours to check my posts. Grrr.

I'll have to launch my second account. Go Towelie!
 

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I'll help on occasion with a second account, but any initial motivation I had to 'convert' those people is all but dust.

I've come to realize that it's a womens site. Run by women, populated by women. No man can survive there and I'm positive my testosterone levels dropped in the time I spent reading some of those threads.

It's a bunch of 25-35 year olds searching for 'true love', yet falling back into the same habits of lust and drama over and over and over.

Make no mistake, there are no men on that site.

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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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mr_elor said:
Magma and Thundermaverick, I'm on it :up:



JESUS CHRIST ELOR!!! WHY ARE YOU LINKING TO SOSUAVE??!!

They found out where we're nesting!!! They're going to ban us all!!!!


NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!


*runs around with war room with head on fire*

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ww.loveshack.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1590094#post1590094


Oh my god that thread is f**king funny!! Just endless replies on the first page from the guys of sosuave saying "amen!" and "I agree!" If they didn't know before...they do now. I'm literally laughing OUT LOUD! :D

Ah whatever!
 
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ThunderMaverick said:
God, will someone back me up in the "Second Chances" forum?

It has got to be the most pathetic forum on there
It's rough over there on loveshack. There really is a lot of miserable people. IMO, the second chances forum should even exist. All the advise is the same for each post...move on with your life!

Even more depressing is the coping forum.

I need to regroup before going back in..
 

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ThunderMaverick said:
JESUS CHRIST ELOR!!! WHY ARE YOU LINKING TO SOSUAVE??!!

They found out where we're nesting!!! They're going to ban us all!!!!


NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!


*runs around with war room with head on fire*
:crackup: VU, your soldiers are shooting each other in the foot!
 

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ThunderMaverick said:
JESUS CHRIST ELOR!!! WHY ARE YOU LINKING TO SOSUAVE??!!

They found out where we're nesting!!! They're going to ban us all!!!!


NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!


*runs around with war room with head on fire*

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http://ww.loveshack.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1590094#post1590094


Oh my god that thread is f**king funny!! Just endless replies on the first page from the guys of sosuave saying "amen!" and "I agree!" If they didn't know before...they do now. I'm literally laughing OUT LOUD! :D

Ah whatever!
Oh! The humanity!!!

Jesus, this has to be the hardest I've laughed in AGES!! I mean, we're talking gut-busting laughing over here. My cheeks are physically in pain from laughing so hard. This is so fukking ridiculous. I cannot continue this charade any longer. It is absolutely HOPELESS over there!
 
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ThunderMaverick said:
JESUS CHRIST ELOR!!! WHY ARE YOU LINKING TO SOSUAVE??!!

They found out where we're nesting!!! They're going to ban us all!!!!


NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!


*runs around with war room with head on fire*

Edit:

http://ww.loveshack.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1590094#post1590094


Oh my god that thread is f**king funny!! Just endless replies on the first page from the guys of sosuave saying "amen!" and "I agree!" If they didn't know before...they do now. I'm literally laughing OUT LOUD! :D

Ah whatever!
we haven't had a flame war with another site in a long time.
heck, i bet it's no where near the battle that badgirlswirl's was!
because those b!tches had spine.
 
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Desdinova said:
Christ, you guys are dropping like flies. I'm changing the thread title to "Loveshack Massacre"
I think I'm banned. My posts are being deleted as we speak.

Edit: Wait, not banned yet.

WE NEED SOME DIRECTION!! We can't just be posting willy-nilly. Anybody want to step up and take charge here? I will volunteer as cannon fodder. Just put me in coach!
 

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I've been very blunt with my statements, but no bannable offenses.

Who's been banned already? We need a list of fallen!
 

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Quit grouping together and split up. respond to other posts besides those created by SSers. We're big confident burly men, we don't need to travel in packs amongst a bunch of women and feminine men :)
 

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I'd say for a couple weeks just make 5-10 quick posts per day over there, no specific goal in mind besides sewing some testicles to those losers.

Then in a couple weeks when you've established some street cred there with solid posts and threads, we can have a big staged discussion with all points of view accounted for by us.

And just because you've been banned doesn't mean you can't still post. They are pretty slack over there and have twice the population and half the number of mods as we have here.

edit: I'm just waiting for the traitor amongst our crew to be a **** and make a link over there to this thread. ;)

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and, a better way of being covert is just to PM some of the more down-and-out members over there with a link to a relating thread on this site. Using PMs flies under the radar of the mods and can accomplish just as much, if not more. also, people are less inclined to involve their ego because nobody else is seeing what they write.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Yeah you're right! I tackled a whole forum by myself yesterday!

An army of ME!!

Thanks for the backup today though guys!:cheer:
 

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Desdinova said:
Quit grouping together and split up. respond to other posts besides those created by SSers. We're big confident burly men, we don't need to travel in packs amongst a bunch of women and feminine men :)
A-FVCKING-MEN.
 

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Desdinova said:
Quit grouping together and split up. respond to other posts besides those created by SSers. We're big confident burly men, we don't need to travel in packs amongst a bunch of women and feminine men :)
Aye aye...

and, a better way of being covert is just to PM some of the more down-and-out members over there with a link to a relating thread on this site. Using PMs flies under the radar of the mods and can accomplish just as much, if not more. also, people are less inclined to involve their ego because nobody else is seeing what they write.
I discovered that you have to pay a fee over there for a "Supporting Membership" which allows you to PM other members. Otherwise, you can't. So that won't work.
 

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Magma said:
Aye aye...



I discovered that you have to pay a fee over there for a "Supporting Membership" which allows you to PM other members. Otherwise, you can't. So that won't work.
since when did that start?
they didn't use to make you pay.
 

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I've seriously never posted this much in either site in a week.

I've become obsessed!! O_O
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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