penkitten
Master Don Juan
congratulations! may you wake each day with a full heart and a happy home!
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I think they're a distraction. Instead of reading every single one of my posts why don't you put me on ignore? This way you can sashay yourself to Hulk green bliss.Boilermaker said:he spends a lifetime bashing posters who have lots of "green dots" (although it's not the posters, but the readers who are giving them those green dots)
I made that reference one time to illustrate how idiotic and superficial the rep-laden dependency you new guys have.and then every once in a while he comes back and feels the need to remind us that he was the most rep'ped poster in sosuave before he disabled reputation.
Great. That's your choice. I don't give a good-goddamn.I want to see them green dots. That's an easy indicator of who I should ignore and who I should take seriously. And there's nothing immoral or unethical about showing people that you are admired and respected.
Pizza is cheesy too. That's what makes it great.I mean seriously, why are we even coming back here and sharing our opinions? Don't give me that cheesy "helping my fellow brothers
prosper in their journeys" argument.
At what point does one get when it becomes analingus?We feel good about ourselves, we feel good about being appreciated and respected. And there's nothing wrong with that.
But it makes me sick to see how some of us are so viciously attacking this basic idea, while needing the attention more than anyone else.
Thanks to you and everyone else who chimed in without bullsh!t.5string said:Great news Karma!
May I please at least come to the reception and drink your Scotch?
That IS a comment.Rollo Tomassi said:Noted without comment.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
First marriages are labeled starter marriages for a reason.DJ Logic said:Hmm some people just don't learn from their mistakes apparently. I wish you luck and happiness Karma, but do not see this ending well considering your dependency on female validation to assess your self-worth. (Before you get defensive look at your posting history since your divorce, it's very telling)
Why risk ruining all that with marriage?I'm engaged because I have learned from my mistakes. The Mrs.-to-be is as close to a supportive, caring, gorgeous, successful mate as I could've hoped.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Nothing worth gaining's without risk.f283000 said:Why risk ruining all that with marriage?
*grabs popcorn*KarmaSutra said:Nothing worth gaining's without risk.
Marriage to a wonderful companion isn't the end of the world. Being a lonely, spiteful dude who lives on them internets is.
Unfortunately there are far too many of the latter.
Woah, that was a jab at us, wasn't it; The people on the interwebz. Sounds like you're not getting the response you wanted, so you're deflecting it on us.KarmaSutra said:Nothing worth gaining's without risk.
Marriage to a wonderful companion isn't the end of the world. Being a lonely, spiteful dude who lives on them internets is.
Unfortunately there are far too many of the latter.
Not unless you believe yourself to be said lonely, spiteful douche.ThunderMaverick said:Woah, that was a jab at us, wasn't it
I don't give a flying fvck about a random typed response on a forum. I'm not dependent on the whim of anyone's opinion but my own and those I trust.The people on the interwebz. Sounds like you're not getting the response you wanted, so you're deflecting it on us.
I don't care if any of you congratulate me, hate me, or if you choke on c0ck on a regular basis.I understand if your own personal values have changed after years of experience, but you can't expect us to all just congratulate you on something like this, a choice that screws most men over for the rest of their lives.
So? Marriages fall apart because one or both have lost the drive to keep each other mentally and physically interested in each other.More than half of marriages nowadays end in divorce, most of them initiated by women. I know you found a great one and all, but you never answered my question.
Not a thing.What can you get out of a personal union through marriage that you can't get not married?
She's already happy.Sue Madre said:He hasn't actually married her yet. He probably just did it to keep the nagging b!tch happy.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
IQQI, expect irony to be lost on you, and you never disappoint.iqqi said:That IS a comment.![]()
Jitterbug said:She must be super amazing to put up with you lol
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.