penkitten
Master Don Juan
congratulations! may you wake each day with a full heart and a happy home!
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
I think they're a distraction. Instead of reading every single one of my posts why don't you put me on ignore? This way you can sashay yourself to Hulk green bliss.Boilermaker said:he spends a lifetime bashing posters who have lots of "green dots" (although it's not the posters, but the readers who are giving them those green dots)
I made that reference one time to illustrate how idiotic and superficial the rep-laden dependency you new guys have.and then every once in a while he comes back and feels the need to remind us that he was the most rep'ped poster in sosuave before he disabled reputation.
Great. That's your choice. I don't give a good-goddamn.I want to see them green dots. That's an easy indicator of who I should ignore and who I should take seriously. And there's nothing immoral or unethical about showing people that you are admired and respected.
Pizza is cheesy too. That's what makes it great.I mean seriously, why are we even coming back here and sharing our opinions? Don't give me that cheesy "helping my fellow brothers
prosper in their journeys" argument.
At what point does one get when it becomes analingus?We feel good about ourselves, we feel good about being appreciated and respected. And there's nothing wrong with that.
But it makes me sick to see how some of us are so viciously attacking this basic idea, while needing the attention more than anyone else.
Thanks to you and everyone else who chimed in without bullsh!t.5string said:Great news Karma!
May I please at least come to the reception and drink your Scotch?
That IS a comment.Rollo Tomassi said:Noted without comment.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
First marriages are labeled starter marriages for a reason.DJ Logic said:Hmm some people just don't learn from their mistakes apparently. I wish you luck and happiness Karma, but do not see this ending well considering your dependency on female validation to assess your self-worth. (Before you get defensive look at your posting history since your divorce, it's very telling)
Why risk ruining all that with marriage?I'm engaged because I have learned from my mistakes. The Mrs.-to-be is as close to a supportive, caring, gorgeous, successful mate as I could've hoped.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Nothing worth gaining's without risk.f283000 said:Why risk ruining all that with marriage?
*grabs popcorn*KarmaSutra said:Nothing worth gaining's without risk.
Marriage to a wonderful companion isn't the end of the world. Being a lonely, spiteful dude who lives on them internets is.
Unfortunately there are far too many of the latter.
Woah, that was a jab at us, wasn't it; The people on the interwebz. Sounds like you're not getting the response you wanted, so you're deflecting it on us.KarmaSutra said:Nothing worth gaining's without risk.
Marriage to a wonderful companion isn't the end of the world. Being a lonely, spiteful dude who lives on them internets is.
Unfortunately there are far too many of the latter.
Not unless you believe yourself to be said lonely, spiteful douche.ThunderMaverick said:Woah, that was a jab at us, wasn't it
I don't give a flying fvck about a random typed response on a forum. I'm not dependent on the whim of anyone's opinion but my own and those I trust.The people on the interwebz. Sounds like you're not getting the response you wanted, so you're deflecting it on us.
I don't care if any of you congratulate me, hate me, or if you choke on c0ck on a regular basis.I understand if your own personal values have changed after years of experience, but you can't expect us to all just congratulate you on something like this, a choice that screws most men over for the rest of their lives.
So? Marriages fall apart because one or both have lost the drive to keep each other mentally and physically interested in each other.More than half of marriages nowadays end in divorce, most of them initiated by women. I know you found a great one and all, but you never answered my question.
Not a thing.What can you get out of a personal union through marriage that you can't get not married?
She's already happy.Sue Madre said:He hasn't actually married her yet. He probably just did it to keep the nagging b!tch happy.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
IQQI, expect irony to be lost on you, and you never disappoint.iqqi said:That IS a comment.![]()
Jitterbug said:She must be super amazing to put up with you lol
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.