"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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congratulations! may you wake each day with a full heart and a happy home!
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Boilermaker said:
he spends a lifetime bashing posters who have lots of "green dots" (although it's not the posters, but the readers who are giving them those green dots)
I think they're a distraction. Instead of reading every single one of my posts why don't you put me on ignore? This way you can sashay yourself to Hulk green bliss.

and then every once in a while he comes back and feels the need to remind us that he was the most rep'ped poster in sosuave before he disabled reputation.
I made that reference one time to illustrate how idiotic and superficial the rep-laden dependency you new guys have.

I want to see them green dots. That's an easy indicator of who I should ignore and who I should take seriously. And there's nothing immoral or unethical about showing people that you are admired and respected.
Great. That's your choice. I don't give a good-goddamn.

I mean seriously, why are we even coming back here and sharing our opinions? Don't give me that cheesy "helping my fellow brothers
prosper in their journeys" argument.
Pizza is cheesy too. That's what makes it great.

We feel good about ourselves, we feel good about being appreciated and respected. And there's nothing wrong with that.
But it makes me sick to see how some of us are so viciously attacking this basic idea, while needing the attention more than anyone else.
At what point does one get when it becomes analingus?
 

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5string said:
Great news Karma!

May I please at least come to the reception and drink your Scotch?
Thanks to you and everyone else who chimed in without bullsh!t.

As I said, we're enjoying our engagement for as long as it takes. Her girlfriends immediately jump to: "WHAT'S THE DATE!", to which HER reply is: "We'll take the next step when we're both ready."

Her awesomeness shines through.

When the day has been determined (if ever) cigars and Scotch will be readily available to partake.
 

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Hmm some people just don't learn from their mistakes apparently. I wish you luck and happiness Karma, but do not see this ending well considering your dependency on female validation to assess your self-worth. (Before you get defensive look at your posting history since your divorce, it's very telling)
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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DJ Logic said:
Hmm some people just don't learn from their mistakes apparently. I wish you luck and happiness Karma, but do not see this ending well considering your dependency on female validation to assess your self-worth. (Before you get defensive look at your posting history since your divorce, it's very telling)
First marriages are labeled starter marriages for a reason.

I'm engaged because I have learned from my mistakes. The Mrs.-to-be is as close to a supportive, caring, gorgeous, successful mate as I could've hoped.

You only find ones like this with experience.
 

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Man guys lighten up. The guy just got engaged and some of you are trying to lay down your pov on everything. Just wish him and his future bride well and leave it at that.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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f283000 said:
Why risk ruining all that with marriage?
Nothing worth gaining's without risk.

Marriage to a wonderful companion isn't the end of the world. Being a lonely, spiteful dude who lives on them internets is.

Unfortunately there are far too many of the latter.
 

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KarmaSutra said:
Nothing worth gaining's without risk.

Marriage to a wonderful companion isn't the end of the world. Being a lonely, spiteful dude who lives on them internets is.

Unfortunately there are far too many of the latter.
*grabs popcorn*
 

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KarmaSutra said:
Nothing worth gaining's without risk.

Marriage to a wonderful companion isn't the end of the world. Being a lonely, spiteful dude who lives on them internets is.

Unfortunately there are far too many of the latter.
Woah, that was a jab at us, wasn't it; The people on the interwebz. Sounds like you're not getting the response you wanted, so you're deflecting it on us.

I understand if your own personal values have changed after years of experience, but you can't expect us to all just congratulate you on something like this, a choice that screws most men over for the rest of their lives.

More than half of marriages nowadays end in divorce, most of them initiated by women. I know you found a great one and all, but you never answered my question.

What can you get out of a personal union through marriage that you can't get not married?
 

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ThunderMaverick said:
Woah, that was a jab at us, wasn't it
Not unless you believe yourself to be said lonely, spiteful douche.

The people on the interwebz. Sounds like you're not getting the response you wanted, so you're deflecting it on us.
I don't give a flying fvck about a random typed response on a forum. I'm not dependent on the whim of anyone's opinion but my own and those I trust.

Those I trust are within earshot.

I understand if your own personal values have changed after years of experience, but you can't expect us to all just congratulate you on something like this, a choice that screws most men over for the rest of their lives.
I don't care if any of you congratulate me, hate me, or if you choke on c0ck on a regular basis.

The choice I made is mine to own. I'm not parlaying responsibility for my life on what you people think I should do or think.

More than half of marriages nowadays end in divorce, most of them initiated by women. I know you found a great one and all, but you never answered my question.
So? Marriages fall apart because one or both have lost the drive to keep each other mentally and physically interested in each other.

Divorce is a product of laziness. I know.


What can you get out of a personal union through marriage that you can't get not married?
Not a thing.

My own idea of a Love Lease and Marriage have the exact principle to apply as a couple. The legal ramifications won't have any burden on our decisions as life-mates. You know why?

WE FVCKING COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER ABOUT EVERY MAJOR DECISION THAT WILL IMPACT OUR LIVES.

Your basing your ASSumptions on a persona I have. It's one aspect of my personality you see here. I wear various facades and societal masks depending on the situation.

You do too. We all do. I admit mine.

Don't pretend any of you know who I am. I've hung out with a few of the Brothers here a couple of times and they've gotten to know who I am.

That's what matters.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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You made the right decision marrying this woman, Karma. She must be super amazing to put up with you lol
 

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Jitterbug said:
She must be super amazing to put up with you lol

A-motherfvckin'-men.

She is. I'm not the easiest guy in the world to get close to. She taught me how important it is to let dumbsh!t go, instead of harboring it to fester in my brain.

Seriously, I only wish for the rest of you guys to find a mate as compatible with you as I have. One who compliments your strengths and helps you grow above your weak points.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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