The idea that rejection is nothing personal

[BaronOfHair]

A magic potion (if you want to call it that) most certainly exists in certain areas of life.

For example, there are certain tasks at my workplace with step-by-step directions. If you follow the directions step-by-step, you will successfully complete the task.

As another example, if you're building an office chair, and follow the step-by-step directions, you will successfully have a fully built chair when all is said and done.

Autists excel at following step-by-step directions (which is why I'm superb at stuff like workplace tasks or building an office chair)

Think about it like this, GM:

In ONE sense, dating and mating hasn't been this easy in decades. Between the lingering effects of lockdown(lots of men simply decided to remain shut in) and the fact that so many guys today fit the stereotype described here

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More snugly than a string bikini hugs Rachel Pizzolato's rear end, folks(women are especially)are astonished, whenever they meet a man who doesn't seem like a basement dwelling neckbeard. Public opinion on men being piss poor at the moment can actually work in one's favor

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Think about it like this, GM:

In ONE sense, dating and mating hasn't been this easy in decades. Between the lingering effects of lockdown(lots of men simply decided to remain shut in) and the fact that so many guys today fit the stereotype described here

9:00-the end

5:56-6:40

More snugly than a string bikini hugs Rachel Pizzolato's rear end, folks(women are especially)are astonished, whenever they meet a man who doesn't seem like a basement dwelling neckbeard. Public opinion on men being piss poor at the moment can actually work in one's favor

It is desirable, and not all too difficult, for a skilled seducer to be considered "refreshing" in today's zeitgeist, much like those much-vaunted Rachel Pizzolato's string bikinis straight out of the dryer with a double helping of dryer sheets, Snuggle Blue Sparkle Fresh Scent of course.

What's more difficult, but perhaps still doable, is to conduct a successful seduction @BaronOfHair style, ponderously and preternaturally pontificating on esoteric and disparate subjects, weaving together a rich mosaic of something vaguely warm and weird and utterly indescribable, all the while maintaining direct eye contact and smoothly escalating kino-wise; with a strong mindset deftly dominating the dualism of juggling the random tangents while vividly visualizing a bl0wjob under the table, the chances of a successful outcome does rise above 0.1% but without the Winning Mindset the chances would sadly remain at zero.

 

[BaronOfHair]

....much like those much-vaunted Rachel Pizzolato's string bikinis...

You said it, my ninja

"What's more difficult, but perhaps still doable, is to conduct a successful seduction @BaronOfHair style, ponderously and preternaturally pontificating on esoteric and disparate subjects, weaving together a rich mosaic of something vaguely warm and weird and utterly indescribable, all the while maintaining direct eye contact and smoothly escalating kino-wise..."

It's a cinch compared to the multitudes of truly complex tasks human beings regularly attempt, with varying degrees of success, each and every day, such as neurosurgery and getting 500 pounds of ammonium nitrate fuel oil into q federal building's parking garage...


Folks remain skittish, this many years after Oklahoma City

 

[GoodMan32]

Yes, junior year might have sucked. You weren't flexible enough back then to find a solution. You could have done other forms of dates back then. As a 20 year old, you could have been dating the 18-19 year old freshmen and sophomores.

However, your verbal game stunk with everyone. You didn't learn a good conversational model to drop panties. Those existed on the internet priot to 2012.

Can't live in the past. Move forward.

When I was still 20, I briefly dated a freshman girl in an introductory gen ed class I was taking as a filler (seeing as I entered college with a major already declared, I eventually reached the point where I ended up needing filler classes, as I was running out of classes in my major department)

I've posted about her on the forum before. I ended up having to break it off after about a week and a half because she was unbearable to be with.

That beats no effort at all(so I commend you for attending them), AND this is also the equivalent of networking in business via network events alone... It ain't nearly enough

Practice being social more on your own(I.E. Not in events organized by someone else) in small ways each and every day. Same way successful people in business, law, entertainment, and politics pounce on every opportunity to schmooze and rub elbows with those who can open windows for them

Speaking of rubbing elbows with those who can open windows for me, the story where I told my next door neighbor I prefer 45+ is a prime example.

Chances are (being a woman in her 50s), she has contact with many a woman in the 45+ demographic. Even though my next door neighbor personally thinks I'm too young for her, she could have at least offered to fix me up with an older woman who is open to getting with a man my age.

The fact she never offered to fix me up would suggest she doesn't think I'm a worthy partner even for another woman.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

You said it, my ninja

"What's more difficult, but perhaps still doable, is to conduct a successful seduction @BaronOfHair style, ponderously and preternaturally pontificating on esoteric and disparate subjects, weaving together a rich mosaic of something vaguely warm and weird and utterly indescribable, all the while maintaining direct eye contact and smoothly escalating kino-wise..."

It's a cinch compared to the multitudes of truly complex tasks human beings regularly attempt, with varying degrees of success, each and every day, such as neurosurgery and getting 500 pounds of ammonium nitrate fuel oil into q federal building's parking garage...


Folks remain skittish, this many years after Oklahoma City

If only Timothy would've been banging a curly haired, bespectacled brunette girl named Patsy, the circle would've been complete.


© oddlyspecificproductions2025

 

[BaronOfHair]

Speaking of rubbing elbows with those who can open windows for me, the story where I told my next door neighbor I prefer 45+ is a prime example.

A prime example of you continuing a quest that, as has already been discussed in several prior threads(Older women, by and large, ain't interested in much younger men. They've often birthed and raised kids of their own already and want a lover/companion, not another boy to look after), is all but guaranteed to be fruitless

Refusing to get off that kick rivals The Men's Rights Movement's refusal to clean themselves up for the cameras + Stop using the word "men's rights" altogether, given that it results in nothing but doors being slammed in their faces, in terms of sheer moronicism

 

[GoodMan32]

A prime example of you continuing a quest that, as has already been discussed in several prior threads(Older women, by and large, ain't interested in much younger men. They've often birthed and raised kids of their own already and want a lover/companion, not another boy to look after), is all but guaranteed to be fruitless

Refusing to get off that kick rivals The Men's Rights Movement's refusal to clean themselves up for the cameras + Stop using the word "men's rights" altogether, given that it results in nothing but doors being slammed in their faces, in terms of sheer moronicism

I don't dispute the fact a lot of older gals don't want a significantly younger man.

The fact I nailed a few 45+ year olds for free when I was 20-23, however, shows that it is possible, especially now that the age gap has narrowed.

And to dispute the claim that's been made on this forum that an early 20s guy serves as a boytoy, while a 30-something man serves no purpose for an older woman: The last woman I had free sex with, a few months before I turned 30 (so even though I technically wasn't a 30-something yet, I was pretty close), was born in 1978.

See, even after outgrowing boytoy territory, I was able to get cooch from a woman born in the 70s.

 

[BPH]

Seriously, can somebody bring me up to speed on how this thread reached 16 pages?

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Seriously, can somebody bring me up to speed on how this thread reached 16 pages?

The OP lol

 

[SW15]

The OP lol

His threads tend to have a lot of responses.

I don't dispute the fact a lot of older gals don't want a significantly younger man.

They don't.

The media has played a role in this. "American Pie" (released in 1999) and the older woman, younger man porn genre that seemed to emerge in the 2000s after this started getting more young men to chase older women.

Millennials were the first generation affected by this but I think Gen Z males are doing some of this.

I can somewhat understand a younger man (18-25) having sex on a short term basis with a woman 10+ years old. It's usually indicative of some sort of game deficiency with the younger man. In theory, the 18-25 year old man should have sufficient opportunities with 18-25 females that he doesn't need to interact with women who are much older. However, there are situations that arise during the 18-25 years where the man lacks options with similarly aged women. If he goes older for a shorter period, I don't think that's a big deal.

In real life, 18-25 year old males go older with one of their mom's social connections. The other way that happens is through a tech method.

For men of any age, pursuing much older women (10+ years older) is likely to increase the rejection rate. These rejections are somewhat personal too. A 37 year old woman isn't that psyched in most instances to have short term sex with a 22 year old male. She might do it if he's good looking enough (at least 6-7 on the ratings), but she's usually not motivated to do it.

And to dispute the claim that's been made on this forum that an early 20s guy serves as a boytoy, while a 30-something man serves no purpose for an older woman: The last woman I had free sex with, a few months before I turned 30 (so even though I technically wasn't a 30-something yet, I was pretty close), was born in 1978.

See, even after outgrowing boytoy territory, I was able to get cooch from a woman born in the 70s.

You are seeking outliers and trying to create a sustainable strategy around chasing outliers. That's not a strategy. That's generally a waste of time.

A 42-43 year old woman isn't seeking sex from a 29-30 year old man. That's a highly unusual combination.

When a man seeks outliers, he increases his rejection rate.

The same thing will happen for a man who intentionally chases women taller than he is, even if they are similarly aged. That would be a waste of time for most men so most men have learned to avoid rejections from taller women.

 

[GoodMan32]

His threads tend to have a lot of responses.



They don't.

The media has played a role in this. "American Pie" (released in 1999) and the older woman, younger man porn genre that seemed to emerge in the 2000s after this started getting more young men to chase older women.

Millennials were the first generation affected by this but I think Gen Z males are doing some of this.

I can somewhat understand a younger man (18-25) having sex on a short term basis with a woman 10+ years old. It's usually indicative of some sort of game deficiency with the younger man. In theory, the 18-25 year old man should have sufficient opportunities with 18-25 females that he doesn't need to interact with women who are much older. However, there are situations that arise during the 18-25 years where the man lacks options with similarly aged women. If he goes older for a shorter period, I don't think that's a big deal.

In real life, 18-25 year old males go older with one of their mom's social connections. The other way that happens is through a tech method.

For men of any age, pursuing much older women (10+ years older) is likely to increase the rejection rate. These rejections are somewhat personal too. A 37 year old woman isn't that psyched in most instances to have short term sex with a 22 year old male. She might do it if he's good looking enough (at least 6-7 on the ratings), but she's usually not motivated to do it.



You are seeking outliers and trying to create a sustainable strategy around chasing outliers. That's not a strategy. That's generally a waste of time.

A 42-43 year old woman isn't seeking sex from a 29-30 year old man. That's a highly unusual combination.

When a man seeks outliers, he increases his rejection rate.

The same thing will happen for a man who intentionally chases women taller than he is, even if they are similarly aged. That would be a waste of time for most men so most men have learned to avoid rejections from taller women.

We must have a different definition of what constitutes a personal rejection.

Turning a guy down because of his age isn't what I'd view as a personal rejection. If a woman dislikes a dude's age, chances are she'd turn him down whether he's neurotypical or not. Because the rejection has nothing to do with his personal qualities; it's solely about his age.

On the other hand, if a woman turns me down because of all the baggage surrounding my autism, that is what I'd view as a personal rejection. That's a direct jab at who I am as a person.

 

[SW15]

Turning a guy down because of his age isn't what I'd view as a personal rejection. If a woman dislikes a dude's age, chances are she'd turn him down whether he's neurotypical or not. Because the rejection has nothing to do with his personal qualities; it's solely about his age.

On the other hand, if a woman turns me down because of all the baggage surrounding my autism, that is what I'd view as a personal rejection. That's a direct jab at who I am as a person.

Rejection is personal in most cases. Rejection happens because of who the person is and the traits they possess.

You get turned down due to your personality somewhat regularly.

Men will get turned down due to height, facial aesthetics, lack of employment, personal style, personal hygiene/grooming, etc. Those are all personal rejections. The list goes on and on about what can cause a rejection. Women are rejecting more and more men in recent times due to their increased abundance.

A lot of women have boyfriends and husbands. Some will reject men based on that. However, it can be argued that the man failed to demonstrate himself as a superior alternative to the boyfriend or husband. Many existing relationships are mediocre and the woman will jump if she sees a better opportunity (hypergamy). A lot of those rejections can be called personal too.

 

[GoodMan32]

Rejection is personal in most cases. Rejection happens because of who the person is and the traits they possess.

You get turned down due to your personality somewhat regularly.

Men will get turned down due to height, facial aesthetics, lack of employment, personal style, personal hygiene/grooming, etc. Those are all personal rejections. The list goes on and on about what can cause a rejection. Women are rejecting more and more men in recent times due to their increased abundance.

A lot of women have boyfriends and husbands. Some will reject men based on that. However, it can be argued that the man failed to demonstrate himself as a superior alternative to the boyfriend or husband. Many existing relationships are mediocre and the woman will jump if she sees a better opportunity (hypergamy). A lot of those rejections can be called personal too.

In that case, seeing as my autistic self has bagged more than one married woman (as well as more than one woman with a boyfriend) for free, their husbands/boyfriends must have really been pathetic (the fact I came across as a better option)

 

[BPH]

The OP lol

Has he done anything different, or is he still using his autism as an excuse and thinking about how "because this happened before, it'll happen again" as it pertains to women?

 

[GoodMan32]

Has he done anything different, or is he still using his autism as an excuse and thinking about how "because this happened before, it'll happen again" as it pertains to women?

I'd say the amount of organized singles events I've attended in the past 7 months or so constitutes "doing something different"

I'm certainly in a much better position now than I was a year ago (in terms of exposing myself to more opportunities, even if not much comes of it)

As for autism, autism is a disability; not an excuse (just because autism isn't the same as being wheelchair-bound doesn't change the fact autism is a disability)

Seeing as you've admitted you get cranky if you go a few weeks without sex, you'd definitely kill yourself if you had to spend even a month being autistic.

The fact I've been dealing with something for nearly 34 years that you wouldn't even be able to cope with for a month shows tremendous inner strength on my part.

 

[BPH]

I'd say the amount of organized singles events I've attended in the past 7 months or so constitutes "doing something different"

I'm certainly in a much better position now than I was a year ago (in terms of exposing myself to more opportunities, even if not much comes of it)

As for autism, autism is a disability; not an excuse (just because autism isn't the same as being wheelchair-bound doesn't change the fact autism is a disability)

Seeing as you've admitted you get cranky if you go a few weeks without sex, you'd definitely kill yourself if you had to spend even a month being autistic.

The fact I've been dealing with something for nearly 34 years that you wouldn't even be able to cope with for a month shows tremendous inner strength on my part.

The reason I say "excuse" is because women don't care about problems; they only care about what's being presented to them.

You have autism. That's unfortunate. Now what?

Have you started going to the gym regularly yet?

 

[SW15]

Have you started going to the gym regularly yet?

Getting shredded and building a top tier physique can limit the effects of anything in a personality.

"Money, muscles, game" -Rollo Tomassi

 

[BaronOfHair]

I don't dispute the fact a lot of older gals don't want a significantly younger man

So STOP PURSUING THEM, and date women your own age or younger. No more excuses. In fact, if you respond to what I just said with yet another hair-brained rationalizaton for not adopting more productive beliefs and behaviors, I'm reporting you for spamming

Nonsense like this is The Manosphere equivalent of Intersectionalist chicks spending their every waking moment grousing over the fact that men desire women who are physically lithe and personally humble/decent, instead of directing their energies towards getting fit and not having mouths like that of Melissa McCarthy and Leslie Jones

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Has he done anything different, or is he still using his autism as an excuse and thinking about how "because this happened before, it'll happen again" as it pertains to women?

Wringing blood from a stone is a neverending task.

 

[BPH]

Wringing blood from a stone is a neverending task.

How'd @New_Journey get banned?