The Final Word on Looks

[Bigpapa]

Exactly. By the way, there are plenty of pretty women out there who like the big teddy-bear types, but I would never bank on that unless I was a natural teddy-bear type of guy.
Women’s perception of looks can be fairly malleable based upon the energy you project. But again, the whole point of this thread is that so many men are paralyzed by what they consider to be ugly looks, when in fact there is plenty they can do about that to make it no longer an issue.

In that particular case , they were both at the same table and ofc they started talking . So both of them were locked in the same place , which gave the guy the opportunity to start the seduction process

plus the preselection factor , most likely he was not playing the minimum entry per hand

it would be different if he would do night or day game , as women are not locked to a specific place and you do not have any preselection to back up your game

 

[zekko]

Chad who dresses like crap > Normie who dresses well.

Lol. The Chad will get points for his DGAF attitude, and the Normie will be looked at as try hard.

You can be Brad Pitt but if you're dead inside you are going to struggle keeping them. They will die inside along with you. Life is energy as much as matter if not more

I appreciate this more as an older person than ever before. Energy is everything.

 

[MatureDJ]

Hire a hooker and jack off.

Wouldn't that be "hire a hooker and let her jack you off"?

 

[MatureDJ]

There is no reason not to look well put together over sloppy or slovenly, ever. I mean how much effort does it take really to wear a pair of jeans that fits well, a fitted t-shirt and a cool pair of shoes? No more effort than something slouchy.

Chad can get by with a sweatshirt and tight shorts that shows the contour of his manhood.

 

[RickTheToad]

Wouldn't that be "hire a hooker and let her jack you off"?

Going to assume hookers are expensive and most dudes would like to climax on a regular basis. Thus, a mixture of both?

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

She will prefer one of the 10 based solely on looks.

100% disagree.

She'll quickly use her female ninja brain and do a hierarchy scan.

Then observer, verify and recalibrate if needed.

And then pick the one who's in charge, whoever has the most relative status. The one the other dudes are referring to.

And dudes being in charge of other dudes have very little to do with looks.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

100% disagree.

She'll quickly use her female ninja brain and do a hierarchy scan.

Then observer, verify and recalibrate if needed.

And then pick the one who's in charge, whoever has the most relative status. The one the other dudes are referring to.

And dudes being in charge of other dudes have very little to do with looks.

Is she always gonna want to fvck the one in charge? Even if he's not sexually Attractive? I could understand that she'll want to get favors from him.

 

[Bigpapa]

100% disagree.

She'll quickly use her female ninja brain and do a hierarchy scan.

Then observer, verify and recalibrate if needed.

And then pick the one who's in charge, whoever has the most relative status. The one the other dudes are referring to.

And dudes being in charge of other dudes have very little to do with looks.

It is not really the case

usually a woman will have a preference based on looks and how you present yourself , that can or can not change if a more dominant guy is in the picture

 

[darksprezzatura]

Ugly dudes who approach get more lays than good looking dudes who don't.

 

[Bigpapa]

Ugly dudes who approach get more lays than good looking dudes who don't.

Because it is a numbers game

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I have to say that I think it's as simple as her needing to think you are good looking. And depending on how much you meet her minimm requirement (maybe a 7) is related to how much 'game' you need to seal the deal

It's not about being well groomed and taking a shower (if she thinks you're a 4, but she can see you;ve taken a shower and workout and had a haircut, you still have zero chance)

It's that, luckily, not all girls have identical taste in what makes a man handsome. I feel like i've even experienced this in my life myslf a few times (getting rejected by 5's and end up pulling a 7 because she just happens to had unusual taste when it comes to looks)

But as someone who has a really good looking wing man, I literally cannot take someone seriously if he tells me 'girls don't care about looks like we do bro' bla bla bla. The stuff i've seen him do and how girls react to him and approach him is crazy.

And especially when we're talking about very young girls. I'd go as far to say they are EVEN MORE superficial about looks than us men are!! lol

Yes...I would say I am maybe a 6ish...6.5 if factoring in my build but I have had extremely hot women who I would say are 8s or 8.5s go crazy for me and tell me how hot they find me.

Everyone's idea of what is attractive is different and personality and the vibe you have with a woman will help you a LOT more than you realize especially if you meet their minimum requirement.

 

[Medina]

And then pick the one who's in charge, whoever has the most relative status. The one the other dudes are referring to.

And dudes being in charge of other dudes have very little to do with looks.

Your Wal-mart manager don't get laid bro. But the Chad in the stockroom does

He's in charge of all the cardboard

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Ugly dudes who approach get more lays than good looking dudes who don't

The corollary to that would be ugly dudes who don't approach claim their looks are holding them back.

 

[Bigpapa]

The corollary to that would be ugly dudes who don't approach claim their looks are holding them back.

That is a different story

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Ugly dudes who approach get more lays than good looking dudes who don't.

Not sure I believe this.

 

[Atom Smasher]

I hope that a few guys here and maybe hundreds of our multiple thousands of regular lurkers are rethinking the PARALYSIS of feeling they are ugly or plain.

It’s funny how in nature, usually the male of the species is the beautiful one. Bright colors, grandiose plumes of feathers, beautiful manes, the list goes on.

But in humans, it’s the direct opposite. The female is visually appealing just as the male is in the animal kingdom.

This means that the male of our species is not expected to look beautiful. We are expected to look trim, confident, strong, and weathered. Let that sink in before you reject the notion. Women love a rough, weathered look. Women love scars. Men are chiefly attractive by projecting ACTION and bold, manly activity. That’s not the stuff of “pretty boys”.

Beauty is expected of women, and that beauty always has femininity attached to it. I observe that women’s perception of beauty in men is largely based upon the STORY of ACTION that his body and his eyes tell.

This is less true of very young girls and especially party girls who are highly influenced by the media. You guys can have the bar skanks and party girls. If that’s your world, I can tell you right now that you live a life of dissipation.

However, real, authentic women of substance tend to get turned on by what I just described; Men whose entire persona projects action and some wear and tear. An aura of self-respect seems to be vital to attraction for women. That’s where clothing, grooming and presentation come in.

Your greatest asset is probably your eyes. When you look a woman in the eyesand don’t look away, you have just bumped your score by two to three points. 98% of men look away or down.

Women’s perception of attractiveness is so malleable and so complex and subjective, that we men can’t even comprehend it.

Men are all about PROJECTION. We shoot guns. We project power. We like to spit. We obviously anatomically have sexual organs that project out. We love urinating outdoors. Men shoot forth sexually and in every other way.

How many men know that the eyes project power or timidity to women?

Bottom line: If you consider yourself ugly or average because of your looks, you are paralyzed. You can easily unparalyze yourself by learning how to project forward a bold attitude.

Summary of how to solve your problem:
1) Make yourself reasonably fit. Fat is your biggest enemy and is reallythe only objective metric.
2) Dress to convey self-respect
3) Maintain good hygiene
4) Wear neat, clean shoes
5) Project confidence and superiority with your eyes. You should feel superior to EVERY woman, not in worth but rather in knowledge, moral fiber, and unshakable character. You are a man. You have authority. A woman can ONLY submit to a man she feels is superior.

PROJECT, PROJECT, PROJECT. Thrust your entire being forth into the world. Provide amusement and fun for yourself first and for everyone around you secondarily.

Such a man is seen as extremely attractive. Women are easily influenced to perceive you as much, much more than your objective looks.

THRUST and penetrate into your world. Yeah, you know what I’m saying here, pal!

 

[darksprezzatura]

Ugly dudes who approach get more lays than good looking dudes who don't.

When I was fat, I still got laid cuz I approached more.

Now that I'm muscular and fit, I won't get laid as often if I don't approach.

I hope that a few guys here and maybe hundreds of our multiple thousands of regular lurkers are rethinking the PARALYSIS of feeling they are ugly or plain.

It’s funny how in nature, usually the male of the species is the beautiful one. Bright colors, grandiose plumes of feathers, beautiful manes, the list goes on.

But in humans, it’s the direct opposite. The female is visually appealing just as the male is in the animal kingdom.

This means that the male of our species is not expected to look beautiful. We are expected to look trim, confident, strong, and weathered. Let that sink in before you reject the notion. Women love a rough, weathered look. Women love scars. Men are chiefly attractive by projecting ACTION and bold, manly activity. That’s not the stuff of “pretty boys”.

Beauty is expected of women, and that beauty always has femininity attached to it. I observe that women’s perception of beauty in men is largely based upon the STORY of ACTION that his body and his eyes tell.

This is less true of very young girls and especially party girls who are highly influenced by the media. You guys can have the bar skanks and party girls. If that’s your world, I can tell you right now that you live a life of dissipation.

However, real, authentic women of substance tend to get turned on by what I just described; Men whose entire persona projects action and some wear and tear. An aura of self-respect seems to be vital to attraction for women. That’s where clothing, grooming and presentation come in.

Your greatest asset is probably your eyes. When you look a woman in the eyesand don’t look away, you have just bumped your score by two to three points. 98% of men look away or down.

Women’s perception of attractiveness is so malleable and so complex and subjective, that we men can’t even comprehend it.

Men are all about PROJECTION. We shoot guns. We project power. We like to spit. We obviously anatomically have sexual organs that project out. We love urinating outdoors. Men shoot forth sexually and in every other way.

How many men know that the eyes project power or timidity to women?

Bottom line: If you consider yourself ugly or average because of your looks, you are paralyzed. You can easily unparalyze yourself by learning how to project forward a bold attitude.

Summary of how to solve your problem:
1) Make yourself reasonably fit. Fat is your biggest enemy and is reallythe only objective metric.
2) Dress to convey self-respect
3) Maintain good hygiene
4) Wear neat, clean shoes
5) Project confidence and superiority with your eyes. You should feel superior to EVERY woman, not in worth but rather in knowledge, moral fiber, and unshakable character. You are a man. You have authority. A woman can ONLY submit to a man she feels is superior.

PROJECT, PROJECT, PROJECT. Thrust your entire being forth into the world. Provide amusement and fun for yourself first and for everyone around you secondarily.

Such a man is seen as extremely attractive. Women are easily influenced to perceive you as much, much more than your objective looks.

THRUST and penetrate into your world. Yeah, you know what I’m saying here, pal!

Posts like these make me happy to login when I can

 

[darksprezzatura]

The corollary to that would be ugly dudes who don't approach claim their looks are holding them back.

Being fat lowers testosterone and vice versa.

It's no wonder fat guys don't approach as often.

Some call it insecurity/low confidence, I call low T.

It was definitely tougher for me to approach when I was fat.

This is one reason getting in shape is promoted.

 

[DreamAgain]

As a forum veteran, I expected more from OP.

Everything I have seen indicates that looks are everything, followed by social status, i.e. money which goes hand in hand.

I have seen so many witty, genuinely funny and interesting guys fail over and over again with women, and braindead better looking ones that can literally only speak 2 consecutive sentences of coherent thoughts have women throw themselves at them.

The OP's monologue is all theory and does not correspond with the contemporary status of today's youth. I don't know how old he is, but I can assume he is not dating girls in the 18-24 range.

These guys were not bad looking by any means. They work out and dress well, maximize themselves somewhat. But you can only do so much to overcome genetics, i.e. bad height, frame, face, whatever.

 

[DreamAgain]

And before someone chimes in, well those young girls are only party girls and bar skanks, lol man, 18 - 24 is a woman's prime and if you are not bagging them here, you are getting someone's leftovers. That may sound quite pessimistic but it's the truth.

A separate discussion is the deterioration of society and culture in general.