"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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phil2015

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Hi chaps

Recently met a woman through online dating, who is possibly the hottest woman I've had interested in me in a long while. She's easily an 8 or 9, is a part time model, poses for life drawing classes and is a beauty therapist.

I went on a first date with her on Monday and ended up F-ing her at a hotel.

I found out as well she has 4 children, with 4 different men.

My purpose for this message is that I am looking for advice from an outside perspective as I feel myself getting blinded by her attractiveness.

I am wondering what is the best mindset to approach her with??

Ps - I have a date set with her tomorrow night at my place......
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Use a condom. Do not become emotionally involved with her. 4 children? Don't make a fifth.
 

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Hi chaps

Recently met a woman through online dating, who is possibly the hottest woman I've had interested in me in a long while. She's easily an 8 or 9, is a part time model, poses for life drawing classes and is a beauty therapist.

I went on a first date with her on Monday and ended up F-ing her at a hotel.

I found out as well she has 4 children, with 4 different men.

My purpose for this message is that I am looking for advice from an outside perspective as I feel myself getting blinded by her attractiveness.

I am wondering what is the best mindset to approach her with??

Ps - I have a date set with her tomorrow night at my place......
wrap 12 condoms around your **** and then drive to the next state over to blow your load so it isn't near her.
 

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There are many types of hoes you may come across in life. Child support, poor personal choices, any other type. The question as always, is do you want to be involved with her or see a future with this woman ?
Make no mistake though, that many kids by that many fathers, she probably is some type of hoe or have some type of physiological issue.
 
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Four kids with four different men and she banged you on the first date. She's obviously shooting for five. It won't be long before she has you wrapped around her finger like a stupid little dog.
 

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wrap 12 condoms around your **** and then drive to the next state over to blow your load so it isn't near her.
Fvck that, make her swallow it and then rub your d!ck on any she doesn't get and then shove it back in her mouth...only way you'll guarantee she won't try and use it...chicks do crazy sh1t like try and get the cvm out of condoms etc and put it inside them...

my buddy had a chick that got him like that...the judge won't care...DNA test comes back positive, you are on the hook for 18 years
 

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Hi OP here,
Just an update for your own amusement

As I said in previous post I had invited her around for a meal tonight.

Result is she did a no-show and didn't even bigger to let me know she wasn't coming. I had cooked 2 best steaks which went in the bin, bought three bottles of wine and generally made the effort.

After ringing/texting her numerous times I finally got hold of her and she said she was having a childcare problem with one of her kids.

I checked her facebook (Im not her friemd) shortly after to find out 2 hours earlier she had posted she was out on a 'date night' with her daughter.

All that time/money/food wasted
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Hi OP here,
Just an update for your own amusement

As I said in previous post I had invited her around for a meal tonight.

Result is she did a no-show and didn't even bigger to let me know she wasn't coming. I had cooked 2 best steaks which went in the bin, bought three bottles of wine and generally made the effort.

After ringing/texting her numerous times I finally got hold of her and she said she was having a childcare problem with one of her kids.

I checked her facebook (Im not her friemd) shortly after to find out 2 hours earlier she had posted she was out on a 'date night' with her daughter.

All that time/money/food wasted
So you threw the food out? WTF sense does that make? Why wouldn't you eat it yourself?

Way to show you are a desperate guy with no options by calling and texting her incessantly. Obviously she has little to no respect for you...delete her number and never contact her again.
 

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"Way to show you are a desperate guy with nooptions by calling and texting her incessantly"

I think by this point the rule book has gone out of the window and how I acted would not have made any difference
 

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Jesus Christ man, go to the phillipines.

I found out as well she has 4 children, with 4 different men.
You just dodged a silver bullet, if it was me, I'd be huffing into a paper bag.


CDL's and Thailand. Hammer down driver.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Should have sent me those steaks. Would have went to better use.

Why would you cook before she even got back to you
My whole point...that is just stupidity. Why would you throw out food you could have simply eaten yourself?
 

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Maybe he lost his appetite :D

Christ alive, four kids. Blergh.
 

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Sounds like you should have eaten one of the steaks and banged the other.
 

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She's super hot and on an online dating website. That combo right there should tell you something isn't right. Hot women don't go online until after they've poisoned the local well.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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