"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Hi chaps

Recently met a woman through online dating, who is possibly the hottest woman I've had interested in me in a long while. She's easily an 8 or 9, is a part time model, poses for life drawing classes and is a beauty therapist.

I went on a first date with her on Monday and ended up F-ing her at a hotel.

I found out as well she has 4 children, with 4 different men.

My purpose for this message is that I am looking for advice from an outside perspective as I feel myself getting blinded by her attractiveness.

I am wondering what is the best mindset to approach her with??

Ps - I have a date set with her tomorrow night at my place......
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Use a condom. Do not become emotionally involved with her. 4 children? Don't make a fifth.
 

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Hi chaps

Recently met a woman through online dating, who is possibly the hottest woman I've had interested in me in a long while. She's easily an 8 or 9, is a part time model, poses for life drawing classes and is a beauty therapist.

I went on a first date with her on Monday and ended up F-ing her at a hotel.

I found out as well she has 4 children, with 4 different men.

My purpose for this message is that I am looking for advice from an outside perspective as I feel myself getting blinded by her attractiveness.

I am wondering what is the best mindset to approach her with??

Ps - I have a date set with her tomorrow night at my place......
wrap 12 condoms around your **** and then drive to the next state over to blow your load so it isn't near her.
 

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There are many types of hoes you may come across in life. Child support, poor personal choices, any other type. The question as always, is do you want to be involved with her or see a future with this woman ?
Make no mistake though, that many kids by that many fathers, she probably is some type of hoe or have some type of physiological issue.
 
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Four kids with four different men and she banged you on the first date. She's obviously shooting for five. It won't be long before she has you wrapped around her finger like a stupid little dog.
 

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wrap 12 condoms around your **** and then drive to the next state over to blow your load so it isn't near her.
Fvck that, make her swallow it and then rub your d!ck on any she doesn't get and then shove it back in her mouth...only way you'll guarantee she won't try and use it...chicks do crazy sh1t like try and get the cvm out of condoms etc and put it inside them...

my buddy had a chick that got him like that...the judge won't care...DNA test comes back positive, you are on the hook for 18 years
 

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Hi OP here,
Just an update for your own amusement

As I said in previous post I had invited her around for a meal tonight.

Result is she did a no-show and didn't even bigger to let me know she wasn't coming. I had cooked 2 best steaks which went in the bin, bought three bottles of wine and generally made the effort.

After ringing/texting her numerous times I finally got hold of her and she said she was having a childcare problem with one of her kids.

I checked her facebook (Im not her friemd) shortly after to find out 2 hours earlier she had posted she was out on a 'date night' with her daughter.

All that time/money/food wasted
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Hi OP here,
Just an update for your own amusement

As I said in previous post I had invited her around for a meal tonight.

Result is she did a no-show and didn't even bigger to let me know she wasn't coming. I had cooked 2 best steaks which went in the bin, bought three bottles of wine and generally made the effort.

After ringing/texting her numerous times I finally got hold of her and she said she was having a childcare problem with one of her kids.

I checked her facebook (Im not her friemd) shortly after to find out 2 hours earlier she had posted she was out on a 'date night' with her daughter.

All that time/money/food wasted
So you threw the food out? WTF sense does that make? Why wouldn't you eat it yourself?

Way to show you are a desperate guy with no options by calling and texting her incessantly. Obviously she has little to no respect for you...delete her number and never contact her again.
 

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"Way to show you are a desperate guy with nooptions by calling and texting her incessantly"

I think by this point the rule book has gone out of the window and how I acted would not have made any difference
 

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Jesus Christ man, go to the phillipines.

I found out as well she has 4 children, with 4 different men.
You just dodged a silver bullet, if it was me, I'd be huffing into a paper bag.


CDL's and Thailand. Hammer down driver.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Should have sent me those steaks. Would have went to better use.

Why would you cook before she even got back to you
My whole point...that is just stupidity. Why would you throw out food you could have simply eaten yourself?
 

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Maybe he lost his appetite :D

Christ alive, four kids. Blergh.
 

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Sounds like you should have eaten one of the steaks and banged the other.
 

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She's super hot and on an online dating website. That combo right there should tell you something isn't right. Hot women don't go online until after they've poisoned the local well.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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