"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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phil2015

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Hi chaps

Recently met a woman through online dating, who is possibly the hottest woman I've had interested in me in a long while. She's easily an 8 or 9, is a part time model, poses for life drawing classes and is a beauty therapist.

I went on a first date with her on Monday and ended up F-ing her at a hotel.

I found out as well she has 4 children, with 4 different men.

My purpose for this message is that I am looking for advice from an outside perspective as I feel myself getting blinded by her attractiveness.

I am wondering what is the best mindset to approach her with??

Ps - I have a date set with her tomorrow night at my place......
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Use a condom. Do not become emotionally involved with her. 4 children? Don't make a fifth.
 

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Hi chaps

Recently met a woman through online dating, who is possibly the hottest woman I've had interested in me in a long while. She's easily an 8 or 9, is a part time model, poses for life drawing classes and is a beauty therapist.

I went on a first date with her on Monday and ended up F-ing her at a hotel.

I found out as well she has 4 children, with 4 different men.

My purpose for this message is that I am looking for advice from an outside perspective as I feel myself getting blinded by her attractiveness.

I am wondering what is the best mindset to approach her with??

Ps - I have a date set with her tomorrow night at my place......
wrap 12 condoms around your **** and then drive to the next state over to blow your load so it isn't near her.
 

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There are many types of hoes you may come across in life. Child support, poor personal choices, any other type. The question as always, is do you want to be involved with her or see a future with this woman ?
Make no mistake though, that many kids by that many fathers, she probably is some type of hoe or have some type of physiological issue.
 
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Four kids with four different men and she banged you on the first date. She's obviously shooting for five. It won't be long before she has you wrapped around her finger like a stupid little dog.
 

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wrap 12 condoms around your **** and then drive to the next state over to blow your load so it isn't near her.
Fvck that, make her swallow it and then rub your d!ck on any she doesn't get and then shove it back in her mouth...only way you'll guarantee she won't try and use it...chicks do crazy sh1t like try and get the cvm out of condoms etc and put it inside them...

my buddy had a chick that got him like that...the judge won't care...DNA test comes back positive, you are on the hook for 18 years
 

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Hi OP here,
Just an update for your own amusement

As I said in previous post I had invited her around for a meal tonight.

Result is she did a no-show and didn't even bigger to let me know she wasn't coming. I had cooked 2 best steaks which went in the bin, bought three bottles of wine and generally made the effort.

After ringing/texting her numerous times I finally got hold of her and she said she was having a childcare problem with one of her kids.

I checked her facebook (Im not her friemd) shortly after to find out 2 hours earlier she had posted she was out on a 'date night' with her daughter.

All that time/money/food wasted
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Hi OP here,
Just an update for your own amusement

As I said in previous post I had invited her around for a meal tonight.

Result is she did a no-show and didn't even bigger to let me know she wasn't coming. I had cooked 2 best steaks which went in the bin, bought three bottles of wine and generally made the effort.

After ringing/texting her numerous times I finally got hold of her and she said she was having a childcare problem with one of her kids.

I checked her facebook (Im not her friemd) shortly after to find out 2 hours earlier she had posted she was out on a 'date night' with her daughter.

All that time/money/food wasted
So you threw the food out? WTF sense does that make? Why wouldn't you eat it yourself?

Way to show you are a desperate guy with no options by calling and texting her incessantly. Obviously she has little to no respect for you...delete her number and never contact her again.
 

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"Way to show you are a desperate guy with nooptions by calling and texting her incessantly"

I think by this point the rule book has gone out of the window and how I acted would not have made any difference
 

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Jesus Christ man, go to the phillipines.

I found out as well she has 4 children, with 4 different men.
You just dodged a silver bullet, if it was me, I'd be huffing into a paper bag.


CDL's and Thailand. Hammer down driver.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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marmel75

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Should have sent me those steaks. Would have went to better use.

Why would you cook before she even got back to you
My whole point...that is just stupidity. Why would you throw out food you could have simply eaten yourself?
 

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Maybe he lost his appetite :D

Christ alive, four kids. Blergh.
 

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Sounds like you should have eaten one of the steaks and banged the other.
 

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She's super hot and on an online dating website. That combo right there should tell you something isn't right. Hot women don't go online until after they've poisoned the local well.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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