logicallefty
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We have had some good conversations about cheating women. Do 50% cheat? 60%? 100%? 0%?
Let's see where we are on here.
Let's see where we are on here.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Thank you for the input. There are some guys on here that seem more non jaded than the majority of us. I am anxious to see how our community lines up with the media reports we talked about that said 50% or 60% (of married women) cheat. Maybe it's just those of us who are the most active who have been cheated on? May be lots of guys on here who never post and never have been. I hope to hear from them too.Epimanes said:I think you will find the majority of men here have all been cheated on or are feeling jaded for some reason. This poll is biased.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
shut up titac. This is a decent thread. Some one needs to bring it up. and people should talk about it. Otherwise your perpetuating some blue pill mentality, and just accepting it.Tictac said:How the Hell would you get a percentage of women that 'cheat' from this 'survey'?
Don't quit your day job.
:crackup: hilarious!Tictac said:How the Hell would you get a percentage of women that 'cheat' from this 'survey'?
Don't quit your day job.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Oh I know.. Never say never. I don't buy into all of the MB program. Just what was necessary to up my good beta for plan A. My situation was no where near as bad as most of the stories on MB. But she/we def rode a slippery slope for quite some time. Wish I had of found this place and marriedmansex life sooner. BUT that's behind us now. My wife is very obviously attracted now. We are becoming the couple everyone hates it seems and this has been happening for a steady 2 years. All extraordinary precautions in those departments are covered.Albatross953 said:Epi, you know you'd never try to say an EA isn't adultery at the MB forum, you'd get crucified.
She's at a high risk to do it again.
You're at high risk of retaliation.
She can't have contact with that dude again.
Whether you buy all the MB kool aid or not, I'd be real about my situation if I was you.
All due respect.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Thank you Sir.pbsurf said:I like the thread LL. Some real life sh*t, not just theory.
And i don't care if its a biased poll - the numbers are still f-d up.
I dont think its skewed. Of course it could be 1/10 or 1/100, that a man thinks or knows he was cheated on in an ltr.Peaks&Valleys said:This Poll is skewed, and it will shoot out biased statistics (like most statistics)
"How?" or "Blah, blah, you're an idiot P&V"
No, I'm smart. Listen up:
So, if you were in 10 LTR's in your life and you got cheated on ONCE, possibly in your AFC days, or possibly you just fell under the spell of the wrong woman, if it happened ONCE out of TEN times, then you'd be checking the FOR SURE cheated on box.
So, if everyone got cheated on 1 out of 10 times and checked the FOR SURE box, then the outcome of this survey would be that women cheat 100% of the time, although in truth, it would be only 10% of the time.
Good effort lefty but you left out my category all together so I had to check the "Hey Lefty this survey is stupid category."
I would like to say: "I know for a fact I have never been cheated on, EVER" But I can't in 100% confidence say this.
Mine would be: "For the most part, I don't believe I've ever been cheated on."
There was one time long ago, but we were broken up but not really, and I don't know if she actually hooked up with another guy, but their were signs that she might be seeing someone else, blah, blah. So, "for the most part" works for me.
So what did you vote for exactly?wishyo said:Nobody shared my opinion.. yet
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.