logicallefty
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We have had some good conversations about cheating women. Do 50% cheat? 60%? 100%? 0%?
Let's see where we are on here.
Let's see where we are on here.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Thank you for the input. There are some guys on here that seem more non jaded than the majority of us. I am anxious to see how our community lines up with the media reports we talked about that said 50% or 60% (of married women) cheat. Maybe it's just those of us who are the most active who have been cheated on? May be lots of guys on here who never post and never have been. I hope to hear from them too.Epimanes said:I think you will find the majority of men here have all been cheated on or are feeling jaded for some reason. This poll is biased.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
shut up titac. This is a decent thread. Some one needs to bring it up. and people should talk about it. Otherwise your perpetuating some blue pill mentality, and just accepting it.Tictac said:How the Hell would you get a percentage of women that 'cheat' from this 'survey'?
Don't quit your day job.
:crackup: hilarious!Tictac said:How the Hell would you get a percentage of women that 'cheat' from this 'survey'?
Don't quit your day job.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Oh I know.. Never say never. I don't buy into all of the MB program. Just what was necessary to up my good beta for plan A. My situation was no where near as bad as most of the stories on MB. But she/we def rode a slippery slope for quite some time. Wish I had of found this place and marriedmansex life sooner. BUT that's behind us now. My wife is very obviously attracted now. We are becoming the couple everyone hates it seems and this has been happening for a steady 2 years. All extraordinary precautions in those departments are covered.Albatross953 said:Epi, you know you'd never try to say an EA isn't adultery at the MB forum, you'd get crucified.
She's at a high risk to do it again.
You're at high risk of retaliation.
She can't have contact with that dude again.
Whether you buy all the MB kool aid or not, I'd be real about my situation if I was you.
All due respect.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Thank you Sir.pbsurf said:I like the thread LL. Some real life sh*t, not just theory.
And i don't care if its a biased poll - the numbers are still f-d up.
I dont think its skewed. Of course it could be 1/10 or 1/100, that a man thinks or knows he was cheated on in an ltr.Peaks&Valleys said:This Poll is skewed, and it will shoot out biased statistics (like most statistics)
"How?" or "Blah, blah, you're an idiot P&V"
No, I'm smart. Listen up:
So, if you were in 10 LTR's in your life and you got cheated on ONCE, possibly in your AFC days, or possibly you just fell under the spell of the wrong woman, if it happened ONCE out of TEN times, then you'd be checking the FOR SURE cheated on box.
So, if everyone got cheated on 1 out of 10 times and checked the FOR SURE box, then the outcome of this survey would be that women cheat 100% of the time, although in truth, it would be only 10% of the time.
Good effort lefty but you left out my category all together so I had to check the "Hey Lefty this survey is stupid category."
I would like to say: "I know for a fact I have never been cheated on, EVER" But I can't in 100% confidence say this.
Mine would be: "For the most part, I don't believe I've ever been cheated on."
There was one time long ago, but we were broken up but not really, and I don't know if she actually hooked up with another guy, but their were signs that she might be seeing someone else, blah, blah. So, "for the most part" works for me.
So what did you vote for exactly?wishyo said:Nobody shared my opinion.. yet
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.