logicallefty
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We have had some good conversations about cheating women. Do 50% cheat? 60%? 100%? 0%?
Let's see where we are on here.
Let's see where we are on here.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Thank you for the input. There are some guys on here that seem more non jaded than the majority of us. I am anxious to see how our community lines up with the media reports we talked about that said 50% or 60% (of married women) cheat. Maybe it's just those of us who are the most active who have been cheated on? May be lots of guys on here who never post and never have been. I hope to hear from them too.Epimanes said:I think you will find the majority of men here have all been cheated on or are feeling jaded for some reason. This poll is biased.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
shut up titac. This is a decent thread. Some one needs to bring it up. and people should talk about it. Otherwise your perpetuating some blue pill mentality, and just accepting it.Tictac said:How the Hell would you get a percentage of women that 'cheat' from this 'survey'?
Don't quit your day job.
:crackup: hilarious!Tictac said:How the Hell would you get a percentage of women that 'cheat' from this 'survey'?
Don't quit your day job.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Oh I know.. Never say never. I don't buy into all of the MB program. Just what was necessary to up my good beta for plan A. My situation was no where near as bad as most of the stories on MB. But she/we def rode a slippery slope for quite some time. Wish I had of found this place and marriedmansex life sooner. BUT that's behind us now. My wife is very obviously attracted now. We are becoming the couple everyone hates it seems and this has been happening for a steady 2 years. All extraordinary precautions in those departments are covered.Albatross953 said:Epi, you know you'd never try to say an EA isn't adultery at the MB forum, you'd get crucified.
She's at a high risk to do it again.
You're at high risk of retaliation.
She can't have contact with that dude again.
Whether you buy all the MB kool aid or not, I'd be real about my situation if I was you.
All due respect.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Thank you Sir.pbsurf said:I like the thread LL. Some real life sh*t, not just theory.
And i don't care if its a biased poll - the numbers are still f-d up.
I dont think its skewed. Of course it could be 1/10 or 1/100, that a man thinks or knows he was cheated on in an ltr.Peaks&Valleys said:This Poll is skewed, and it will shoot out biased statistics (like most statistics)
"How?" or "Blah, blah, you're an idiot P&V"
No, I'm smart. Listen up:
So, if you were in 10 LTR's in your life and you got cheated on ONCE, possibly in your AFC days, or possibly you just fell under the spell of the wrong woman, if it happened ONCE out of TEN times, then you'd be checking the FOR SURE cheated on box.
So, if everyone got cheated on 1 out of 10 times and checked the FOR SURE box, then the outcome of this survey would be that women cheat 100% of the time, although in truth, it would be only 10% of the time.
Good effort lefty but you left out my category all together so I had to check the "Hey Lefty this survey is stupid category."
I would like to say: "I know for a fact I have never been cheated on, EVER" But I can't in 100% confidence say this.
Mine would be: "For the most part, I don't believe I've ever been cheated on."
There was one time long ago, but we were broken up but not really, and I don't know if she actually hooked up with another guy, but their were signs that she might be seeing someone else, blah, blah. So, "for the most part" works for me.
So what did you vote for exactly?wishyo said:Nobody shared my opinion.. yet
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.