"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Should I ignore dating for about 10 years??

terabyte

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How do you know the dating scene won't be worse in 10yrs? Social media has already taken over a percentage of it.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Experience is exactly what you need. You're saying that it's nearly impossible for you to get a 26 year old out on a date. Sounds like you have virtually no experience getting women that you desire. Lay off for 10 years and you're going to be in exactly the same position you're in now, but even worse because you'll be a 39 year old with no experience - basically a social freak.

You say you can get 30 year old women now but you don't want them. But in 10 years you plan on getting women in their mid 30s. What makes you think that you will suddenly start finding 30 year olds attractive? What men find attractive doesn't change that much with age.


This is the biggest load of BS, and the flimsiest excuse I have ever seen on this forum.
Women in mid 30s are plenty attractive. I just don't want kids for about 5 years and I don't want to date anybody older than me

ive slept with 12 women who I was not interested in dating (few of them were attractive). It didn't help me at all with dating

Also lol if you don't think women online have impossible standards. Why would they settle for an avg man when they can get a male model millionaire??
 

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I'm starting to think someone is paying bigdave and the frog guu to post troll threads and keep sosuave interesting.
Hahahaha. Am I the frog guy? I'm new in here just trying to be part of the community. :)
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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holy moly do I need to repeat this a 1000 times??


I'm good looking for everyday standards, say top 10% of society. Women on dating sites aren't looking for top 1%, they're looking for top 0.0000000000000001%

No but you sure as fvck are going to remind us over and over how great looking you are, where you "think" you fall in the % of men and still have no clue about dating women.

You are on ignore from here on out. Its depressing reading your worthless shyte over and over.
 
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