PeterCrouch
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How do you respond?
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
She tells you shes a challenge...
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
poohead
Senior Don Juan
i think if she's so narcissistic/egotistical that she would come out and just say this to someone, even jokingly, she's probably not worth your time.
brucevangeorge
Banned
I tell her to change the oil in my car.PeterCrouch said:
disfunktional
Don Juan
I had a woman tell me this, she turned out to be an attention wh0re.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
CompleteControl
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She may be cool. You may have expressed too high a level of interest before she was feeling enough attraction to you.
It is just a test. She says "she is challenge" translates to:
"If you are an AFC don't bother because you are just going to bug me all the time until I have to break your heart".
"Are you really that much of a pain in the ass to get to know better (pause but don't let her answer) cause if you are - I am a busy guy and this isn't going to work out." (pause but don't let her answer)
inquisitive and sort of confused/serious:
"or are you feeling that you really want us to get to know each other but you are a little nervous to just let this happen?"
It is just a test. She says "she is challenge" translates to:
"If you are an AFC don't bother because you are just going to bug me all the time until I have to break your heart".
In a humorous tone:PeterCrouch said:
"Are you really that much of a pain in the ass to get to know better (pause but don't let her answer) cause if you are - I am a busy guy and this isn't going to work out." (pause but don't let her answer)
inquisitive and sort of confused/serious:
"or are you feeling that you really want us to get to know each other but you are a little nervous to just let this happen?"
:yawn: Yeah.. I'm sure she's just checking if your an AFC.CompleteControl said:
She's not thinking in her head if your a ****ing AFC or DJ or not.. stop getting brain-washed by this place.. thinking women have read all this. None have. Checking if you have confidence.. yeah she may do THAT.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
"That's what you all say. Most times women say this when they are just difficult to get along with. Are you one of those women?"
CompleteControl
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Of course she isn't literally checking to see if you are an AFC or DJ. This was shorthand. (see below for explanation)Bvbidd said::yawn: Yeah.. I'm sure she's just checking if your an AFC.
She's not thinking in her head if your a ****ing AFC or DJ or not.
I am not brainwashed - I haven't even read 1% of the stuff on this site. I have actual real life experience with real women.
Beautiful young women constantly have men hitting on them and asking them out. Many men (I called them AFC for short) call them constantly, buy them flowers, drinks, dinner and are always available to and desperately want to spend time with them. These men fail to realize that this behavior has caused her to lose any attraction that there may have been in the first place. The girl is then left in the unenviable position of having to hurt them by telling them she is not interested or blowing them off until they get the hint. She wants to avoid this because it makes her feel bad. With many highly desirable women this has happened over and over and over and she hates it..
Yes, she is checking to see if you have confidence. She is checking to make sure that you are a confident man, that has a life and who she can have a good time with; and not a man who is going to be a needy puppy dog that she has to hurt later.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
CompleteControl
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Great answer! :cheer:Jackman said:
flippinfreak
Master Don Juan
Come ON!!!!!
"Oh, your going to have to prove it"
continue doing whatever it was you were doing when she interrupted you.
"Oh, your going to have to prove it"
continue doing whatever it was you were doing when she interrupted you.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Like it.Jackman said:
flippinfreak
Master Don Juan
Yes, she does go off top prove how much of a challenge she is to me. While I stay right where I am, not chasing her and putting her up on a pedestal.Jackman said:
10, 15 minutes later, I hit her back and sit down with all of her friends and tease her while warming up her friends with a few ice breakers...
She looks at me with a challenge, and I accept...
Yeah, she's a challenge alright, and I'm not going to back down...
No need to bust down a girls confidence straight up... I don't play with little girls Jackman
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
flippinfreak
Master Don Juan
LOL, doesn't do anything if you have your reputation disabledJackman said:
flippinfreak
Master Don Juan
Nah, "you must spread some reputation around before" anything happens... You can't give it to the same post twice neither...Jackman said:Thanks for paying much attention to the rating rules and teaching me. I fixed it. Do you have negative points now?
Glad to see your only like person number four who has actually done something about that quote...
Check your nows
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.