“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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She demands a 5th date out to dinner prior to banging

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He got the cheeks. And with this girl likely he could get LTR if he wants it.

Frankly, had he taken this chick out on date two probably could have done it sooner. But OP did ultimately accomplish the objective.
I understand but I was just asking if it was good sex or bad sex.
 

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I understand but I was just asking if it was good sex or bad sex.
Middle of the ground. She has a great body but needs a little practice on how to use it. I got the feeling from when we had sex that she probably hasn't had sex with many guys. I can definitely take advantage of this fact and train her on what I like...

But no, probably not worth the 5 dates :lol: but hey, it happened and this is where we are at now!
 

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Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Yeah that's true but it is much easier for many guys to maintain this when they have other women.
Not all have an unlimited supply of women around them as potential dates. Your geography has a lot to do with it. I grew up when I was young in a town of 620 people near a town that was only 1200 people, and the largest one nearby was 10,000.

Now (over 40 years later),... Even in a large city (about 1/2 the size of Chicago) I myself have sat around at a place to eat, about a dozen of us in total,...and 4 of the women at the table I have either dated or at least offered dates to. Most of them knew about each other and we all got along,...but it is kind of obvious that I was running out of untouched inventory.

We can be tied where we are due to job or other reasons. We can't always run to a new area to find a fresh "stash" of women. I also feel that those who do that,...uproot their life, relocate, change jobs, change careers,...so they can find a new "hot spot" to meet women,...shows they are obsessed with women and it is just a less obvious but more advance form of "SIMPing". The traditional SIMP with the common simple things they do that we all know about is really just an amateur at it.

So I think having the mental discipline, self control, and being a smart "chooser" is far more important than just dating a bunch of women that all go nowhere to keep from feeling needy.
 

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As expected after all that fannying around the sex wasn't even memorable. But of course it wasn't gonna be. Why would she make you wait if she was attracted. She wouldn't, full stop.

Folks need to take a long hard look at themselves here. You ended up negotiating attraction with this broad. Literally the first cardinal sin of redpill.

Sex is not negotiable.

Now you're in a "relationship" with this girl which will revolve around you entertaining her in exchange for mediocre, transactional sex. I would finally cut my losses and ghost her.
 

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As expected after all that fannying around the sex wasn't even memorable. But of course it wasn't gonna be. Why would she make you wait if she was attracted. She wouldn't, full stop.

Folks need to take a long hard look at themselves here. You ended up negotiating attraction with this broad. Literally the first cardinal sin of redpill.

Sex is not negotiable.

Now you're in a "relationship" with this girl which will revolve around you entertaining her in exchange for mediocre, transactional sex. I would finally cut my losses and ghost her.
I honestly think I might... she is finishing this capstone thing for her Masters and wants to celebrate next weekend so she already made us reservations for brunch in Boston. I don't like the fact that SHE just booked these reservations without asking me, obviously expecting me to pay..
 

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I honestly think I might... she is finishing this capstone thing for her Masters and wants to celebrate next weekend so she already made us reservations for brunch in Boston. I don't like the fact that SHE just booked these reservations without asking me, obviously expecting me to pay..
As i eloborated earlier on my post.. This gonna be a transactional sex.. Its never real intimacy.. I suggest if you down for the coochie just pay the bills.. I might write this one off. Not worth being string along the ride while i have meaningful things to do.
 

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As i eloborated earlier on my post.. This gonna be a transactional sex.. Its never real intimacy.. I suggest if you down for the coochie just pay the bills.. I might write this one off. Not worth being string along the ride while i have meaningful things to do.
Yeah man. I agree. At least we got to have sex, but again, wasn't anything stellar and she wasn't really that submissive. Oh well, at least I got two bottles of casamigos and her buying the ingredients for one meal out of it. I want to generally enjoy being around the women I am fuucking for the personalities too and this girl is just too young. She's 22 and just doesn't 'get' it.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Yeah man. I agree. At least we got to have sex, but again, wasn't anything stellar and she wasn't really that submissive. Oh well, at least I got two bottles of casamigos and her buying the ingredients for one meal out of it. I want to generally enjoy being around the women I am fuucking for the personalities too and this girl is just too young. She's 22 and just doesn't 'get' it.
Dont took it personally thought shes young and taking experience on dating, its understandable for her age to exploring her sexual and dating options.. Just dont this 'endeavours' seriously
 

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Sex is not negotiable.
Of course it is negotiable. We are neither sex robots nor mindless animals. No one is obligated to anyone to give them sex. All around the world people have different cultures and religious cirteria, and even just simple personal criteria,... and there is nothing wrong with a person sticking to their positions....even if PUAs don't like it. As I said way up in the thread,...if someone is just concerned with getting laid then just focus on Hoes and Thots and you will both be on the same page, think the same, have the same world view. So go knock yourselves out. But not everyone else is going to fit that mold.
 

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if someone is just concerned with getting laid then just focus on Hoes and Thots and you will both be on the same page, think the same, have the same world view. So go knock yourselves out. But not everyone else is going to fit that mold.
is that what he said he wants?
I want to generally enjoy being around the women I am fuucking for the personalities too and this girl is just too young. She's 22 and just doesn't 'get' it.
He knew her and him were incapable from a personality perspective, but he wanted to push for the lay regardless cuz we chase that which alludes us. sunk cost fallacy and all that. but you guys pushed him to keep going cuz "comes from good family" and all that.
 

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she already made us reservations for brunch in Boston. I don't like the fact that SHE just booked these reservations without asking me, obviously expecting me to pay..
Thats what you get when listening to simps and women for dating-advise...... in the end, you pay for halfhearted sex.
 

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It sounds like she is the captain of the ship, and your the passenger. I'm glad you updated with this info, it shows that the consequence of the transactional sex is you forfeiting frame. This will help me out in the future.
Its happened ti a lot to a guy even down to marriage, until its too late relizing that hes not in a fullfilling relationship after children involved, some, wife ran with another man that has pure attraction/connection with.. Lots of horror stories out there.
 

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Thats what you get when listening to simps and women for dating-advise...... in the end, you pay for halfhearted sex.
Women are emotionally driven. If you can't engage their emotions "halfhearted" is all you will get no matter how much RP or PUA tactics you use. Most RP and PUA advice that I have been seeing for the past year or two is all creating transactional situations. If I do 1, 2, & 3 then she will respond with X, Y, & Z. But if she responds with A, B, or C, then I will "next" her with 4, 5, or 6. Yet the same RP community will state that "You can't negotiate genuine desire",...but somehow they don't make the connection between the two.

A guy needs to be able to read her and know how to spot the indicators of genuine desire,...and if it isn't there, then don't bother. Even if you manage to coerce sex out of her at some point it still isn't going anywhere.
 

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I honestly think I might... she is finishing this capstone thing for her Masters and wants to celebrate next weekend so she already made us reservations for brunch in Boston. I don't like the fact that SHE just booked these reservations without asking me, obviously expecting me to pay..
you are making a mistake agreeing to this, what you dont realise is, you regained all the power the minute she gave you sex, its the minute you should have gone wishy washy on her. |I dont mean let her down, its like a couldnt care less attitude, that takes time to perfect.

she wouldnt have STFU about you if you did this, but now she knows shes got you.

Go on social media this second, and look who women rattle on about, its not the guy who goes to Brunch with them. it is the guy that jerks them around, they right paragraphs about him
 

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Women are emotionally driven. If you can't engage their emotions "halfhearted" is all you will get no matter how much RP or PUA tactics you use. Most RP and PUA advice that I have been seeing for the past year or two is all creating transactional situations. If I do 1, 2, & 3 then she will respond with X, Y, & Z. But if she responds with A, B, or C, then I will "next" her with 4, 5, or 6. Yet the same RP community will state that "You can't negotiate genuine desire",...but somehow they don't make the connection between the two.

A guy needs to be able to read her and know how to spot the indicators of genuine desire,...and if it isn't there, then don't bother. Even if you manage to coerce sex out of her at some point it still isn't going anywhere.
PUA Is trash, relationship are about admiration, respect and trust..

If you have your **** together youre only ready to be in a relationship once you know you doesnt need one. Same vibe, wavelength/emotional level that you genuinely project will attract the same level of women you want thaf will spark into genuine attractions and having emotional connection with..

Result with such partnership often youll find yourself with real intimacy and to grow together as a happy couple.
 

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you are making a mistake agreeing to this, what you dont realise is, you regained all the power the minute she gave you sex, its the minute you should have gone wishy washy on her. |I dont mean let her down, its like a couldnt care less attitude, that takes time to perfect.

she wouldnt have STFU about you if you did this, but now she knows shes got you.

Go on social media this second, and look who women rattle on about, its not the guy who goes to Brunch with them. it is the guy that jerks them around, they right paragraphs about him
I didn't agree. I have been ignoring her since that request. And there is no way in hell I'm going to brunch with her again hahaha
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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