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You are not understanding. You have more interest in battling ideas. I use to be that way. I remember when I was like that. Good luck.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Red flags
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Music_czar
Senior Don Juan
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Howie, the problem with posting on the regular DJ forum is that you end up getting trolled/flamed by a lot of younger guys who come here and just regurgitate the whole “just be a man and lead and they will follow” bs. Any older guy who’s been dealing with dozens of women over the years in both short term flings and long term relationships knows (hot) women are almost never this easy to handle.
Don’t take it to heart, some people just come here to talk big instead of just being honest in order to find their weaknesses and improve themselves.
And then we have men like you who has been butthurt and can't learn to take the punishment like a man.
You're here posting on how butthurt u r and then teaching others to basically learn butthurt techniques.
The snake that enjoys eating it's own tail and never letting go.
If a man can't even understand this simple concept, don't even talk abt leading women, he can't even function properly in real life as a productive person.
He's whole being is then one of a parasite.
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True statement Spaz. How does one even start to live a life? It can be painful but that’s where character is built. That’s where a boy becomes a man.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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He’s not angry in the least. LolHaha I love pissing you off it’s just so easy
Way to keep strong frame
Straight up fact. There isn’t an accomplished man on here that doesn’t know this.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
"Tricking her"?
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Ranger
Guest
Sure. Making her believe that he was an optimized man when underneath he was reducible and easy to give up his balls.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Yeah but what if we know their nature and know that one. We want her nectar. We dont like how bad she could be. We cant admit that to them?
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Ranger
Guest
Oh I think you should handle crap as soon as possible. Obviously there are ways better than jumping down her throat. Lol
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
I like that. Down her throat.
Exactly.
What's admirable abt a parasite ?
Women should rightly dump him then allowing his DNA to spread even further.
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Ranger
Guest
Underneath I think that’s what it’s really about. Denying him the opportunity to further his DNA.
Cutting him out of the gene pool.
She has no control over her shutting down. Her biology makes her cut him off.
Oh that’s an angle I hadn’t thought of yet. Nice Spaz.
The feminine biological imperative is nature's answer towards the survival and progress of the human species.
They'll cut off deviants ruthlessly.
Yes.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
This whole alpha/beta and male/female imperative is just a way to attempt to explain someone's (or our own) behavior to sooth egos. In reality things don't work that way. In fact, I find it funny when I read this sort of stuff because if we're really talking about alpha/beta/omega in a wolf pack typically only the alpha male and alpha female breed, that's it. So if there are beta males there are also beta females who never should breed. Wolves don't fvck for pleasure like us humans. We've evolved to the point where both males and females fvck for entertainment. Sure the 23yo still wants to have a family but she's not running around with some biological imperative...she's love stricken by that guy she saw at at the mall for whatever reason and if they meet they'll breed. But consider the women who are 35+ who've already had kids and don't want anymore, they still love to fvck just to fvck like us and many times just as a ONS. So they're not denying anyone of anything, it simply boils down to attraction. If she finds you attractive she'll fvck. Simple as that.
Forget all that for a min and think that if the feminine biological imperative was true as you guys say and most of us here were betas (that's the argument right?) then NO woman would've ever slept with us. That's not the case here for most of us though. We've had plenty of women, we've even been married and procreated. So that argument just doesn't hold.
Forget all that for a min and think that if the feminine biological imperative was true as you guys say and most of us here were betas (that's the argument right?) then NO woman would've ever slept with us. That's not the case here for most of us though. We've had plenty of women, we've even been married and procreated. So that argument just doesn't hold.
No, the argument holds.
The top tier guys are rare, the lower ranking males are in abundance, which means the lower ranking guys will still get laid and have relationships because you have lower ranking women who can't get the top guys so what does she do?
Every girl wants the top guys but every girl can't get them, that's were the weaker males come in.
Don't think because your getting laid or because you have been in many relationships that means your not a low status man, it just means that the women in your life are either low status themselves or you got settled for and most likely got mistreated, cheated on and dumped for a more attractive guy.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
I got female friends some of the "top" guys politicians, lawyer, doctor can be a pain in the ass to the ladies.
Those are not top guys, your career doesn't make you a top tier guy or alpha or whatever term ss wants to use.
You can be a lawyer but still be unattractive, passive, submissive, weak ECT
You can be a doctor and still be clingy and needy ECT your profession doesn't make you a attractive man.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.