New Study finds 50% of single people have fallen in love with someone they weren't initially attracted to

[Sega Genesis]

you seem to be totally misunderstanding here
And contradicting yourself

how can this “ only a very brief, limited sample of information—often just a few seconds or minutes.<<“

NOT equal “ surface level attraction “ (!)

it exactly means ‘ surface level attraction’

LOL

I think you are perhaps misunderstood CJ.

It refers to making an "accurate judgment about a person or situation" which exceeds simply surface level attraction.

It's about developing the intuitive ability to accurately assess a person for compatibility (or whatever) based on limited info involving both verbal and non-verbals.

It goes deeper than surface level physical attraction.

My understanding of the book anyway, I have read it a few times.

But everyone will have their own take on it

 

[Cheeky_James]

I think you are perhaps misunderstood CJ.

It refers to making an "accurate judgment about a person or situation" which exceeds simply surface level attraction.

It's about developing the intuitive ability to accurately assess a person for compatibility (or whatever) based on limited info involving both verbal and non-verbals.

It goes deeper than surface level physical attraction.

My understanding of the book anyway, I have read it a few times.

But everyone will have their own take on it

mate you are wriggling now,
If it happens in a few seconds it CANT “go deeper “ by definition. Ya spanner

Cos it’s just a strong impression ?
And it could be a completely misguided impression also (!)

your argument is circular.

FML

 

[zekko]

This has happened to me. Well, maybe not "in love" exactly, I'd say maybe "become attracted to" or "develop a crush on" or even "become infatuated with". But yeah, it's happened to me. The next question is does it happen to women, and is it common? I'm sure we've all heard stories about women who initially disliked someone and then became attracted to them, or married them (not necessarily the same thing).

 

[Sega Genesis]

mate you are wriggling now,
If it happens in a few seconds it CANT “go deeper “ by definition.

Cos it’s just a strong impression ?
And it could be a completely misguided impression also (!)

your argument is circular.

FML

Lol you don't get it CJ but don't have time nor the desire to argue with you about it, I am getting ready to head out for the night.

Take what you will from it, if it helps you with your pick-up, great, carry on!

Good luck!

 

[zekko]

I really don’t get why some of you guys have the term Don Juan next to your name tbh. That’s a misnomer obviously.

I don't like labels, so I don't consider myself a Don Juan (whatever that is). I know I can attract some girls, and there are other girls who aren't going to be attracted to me. That's about as far as I take it, really. The Don Juan beneath our avatars only have to do with how many posts you've made, AFAIK.

 

[UK manc]

I really don’t get why some of you guys have the term Don Juan next to your name tbh. That’s a misnomer obviously.

Based on your stories recently, are you in any position to judge...

 

[Cheeky_James]

Based on your stories recently, are you in any position to judge...

im older bro
My heyday of slayin every other weekend from cold approaching are long over . Reality bites eventually.

But I still get laid..on the regs.

Do you?

Got something interesting I’m gonna post on my journal now fyi.
Also @Sega Genesis you too.

I got feedback from a chick re another dud date I had last night .. and what she says is very interesting re my behaviour.. I got the other side of the story from the chick.

 

[Cheeky_James]

I don't like labels, so I don't consider myself a Don Juan (whatever that is). I know I can attract some girls, and there are other girls who aren't going to be attracted to me. That's about as far as I take it, really. The Don Juan beneath our avatars only have to do with how many posts you've made, AFAIK.

you are a Master Don Juan my friend.
Anointed by SoSuave!

Not throwing shade, it’s just hard to decipher context and game position re some members postings. There is no context to draw upon.

how am I to know . Yknow?

 

[Mertz09]

This has happened to me. Well, maybe not "in love" exactly, I'd say maybe "become attracted to" or "develop a crush on" or even "become infatuated with". But yeah, it's happened to me. The next question is does it happen to women, and is it common? I'm sure we've all heard stories about women who initially disliked someone and then became attracted to them, or married them (not necessarily the same thing).

I have not read "Blink" That being said (I might) my experience is that many times people will meet and there is an attraction and it may not last but a given time.... Why? because they are not actually "In Love" The feelings are infatuation. Once the new and excitement dissipates, then they come to the realization that they are "not" in "Love" after all. In my experience I have noticed that it depends on the individual. An attractive looking Man or Women will have more "options" to choose from than your "average looking Man and or Women.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

I immediately question the validity of any kind of "study" that is based on surveys and questionnaires.

Women gaslight themselves to such an extent that they will lie even in completely anonymous surveys just so they can continue to affirm the delusional stories they tell themselves in their head.

 

[Bigpapa]

I immediately question the validity of any kind of "study" that is based on surveys and questionnaires.

Women gaslight themselves to such an extent that they will lie even in completey anonymous surveys just so they can continue to affirm the delusional stories they tell themselves in their head.

yes, very true

One recent example, I was talking with this girl and the attraction was there for sure. But she kept adding friction as a way to get a grip in the frame. She was more of the controlling type

then we did not spoke for 2 months, then reengaged her and she was projecting her behavior on me, even though I would just deflect her moves in a warm way

women can not feel like they are the bad people, so even if they do things that puts her in that position, they will just project her bad behavior on to the guy either directly either saying that he made her be like that

but at the same time, there are plenty of guys whom are doing ok with women without being necessarily good looking guys at a minimum

what men in general miss a lot is that proximity and exposure is very important

most of the guys that I noticed complaining about women would rarely go out for example, or would spend time in the wrong places. These are also usually the guys whom spend a lot of time on dating apps and just get their view of things even more distorted

 

[characternote]

I immediately question the validity of any kind of "study" that is based on surveys and questionnaires.

Women gaslight themselves to such an extent that they will lie even in completey anonymous surveys just so they can continue to affirm the delusional stories they tell themselves in their head.

this was also my instinct lol.

what men in general miss a lot is that proximity and exposure is very important

most of the guys that I noticed complaining about women would rarely go out for example, or would spend time in the wrong places. These are also usually the guys whom spend a lot of time on dating apps and just get their view of things even more distorted

Yes. I gather you're talking more about shooting more shots with more women when you talk about exposure, but I also think that Propinquity is maybe one of the possible equalisers tbh. If you think of any massively 'missmatched' couple (where the guy ISN'T super rich or something) it's almost never from a cold approach (where he'd get rejected by that same girl) or online (where he wouldn't be swiped on), but it happened over a long time of months/years, from working together etc with lots of exposure. Even as someone who is very blackpilled (and if you had my wingmen, so would anyone be!) I do think there's something too it. I mentioned this to someone in PM's last week actually. It's not a 'scientific' way to think about it at all, but I like to think of it as she gets used to your ugly face lol. And then assuming you can be fun and cool and flirty etc, you might just have a shot!

 

[Bokanovsky]

In other news, a study commissioned by the National Organization for Women (NOW) finds that 79% of women don’t care about looks, money or status and just want a nice guy who will treat them right.

 

[Bigpapa]

this was also my instinct lol.

Yes. Propinquity is maybe one of the possible equalisers tbh. If you think of any massively 'missmatched' couple (where the guy ISN'T super rich or something) it's almost never from a cold approach (where he'd get rejected) or online (where he wouldn't be swiped on), but it happened over a long time from working together etc with lots od exposure. Even as someone who is very blackpilled (and if you had my wingmen, so would anyone be!) I do think there's something too it. I mentioned this to someone in PM's last week actually. It's not 'scientific' at all, but I like to think of it as she gets used to your ugly face lol. And then assuming you can be fun and cool and flirty etc, you might just have a shot!

the main issue with cold approaches is that you have no idea who the person is or what she is going through at exact that moment. Maybe she has a bad day, or in a hurry, or has a bf. Etc

it happened to me a couple of times to do cold approaches to the same girl in the same night. The first time would be rejected, the 2nd time for things to move forward

that is when I realized that cold approaches are influenced heavily by the mood the girl has in that moment, not necessarily a reflection if she finds you attractive enough or not. Though it can be also the case that she is not finding you good looking enough

with online dating, I think the main issue is that women use it mainly for attention and most girls that are there are either not active, either to get the high of matching with guys and feeling wanted but with no intention of actually going to a date

happened to me numerous times that the discussion would be amazing, but never met for a drink

these are some stats from tinder

“ The Zero-Date Reality: A massive portion of women on apps go on zero dates. In data tracking samples, up to half of the female app users interviewed reported not transitioning a single match into a real-world meeting over the course of the tracked period “

and apparently only 2% of women go to more than 10 dates per year

so you have like 50% of women not going to any date, 2% of going to minimum 10 dates per year, and 48% of women going from 1 to 9 dates per year

but I would guess that most women that go to dates are at best average, especially when they towards the 9 dates of year threshold

So at 52 weeks in total per year, a woman would go to maximum 9 dates, that means 0.17 dates per week, roughly a date every 6 weeks

If she would match only with chads, it means that even chads rarely manage to get a date

so based on stats and my experience is that relying only on dating apps is a very bad strategy, no matter how much of chad you are. And for sure you should make theories about dating based on dating apps behavior

 

[Bigpapa]

In other news, a study commissioned by the National Organization for Women (NOW) finds that 79% of women don’t care about looks, money or status and just want a nice guy who will treat them right.

the truth is that in most cases women do not know anything about your status or money, unless they come from your social circle or something similar

so from this point of view, I think it is quite accurate

in terms of looks, I feel that it is more about a minim threshold in terms of looks rather than anything else

even though I am a solid 7, maybe an 8 in terms of looks it happened a couple of times for a guy that was not as attractive as me to get the girl

and it also happened that I outpaced a better looking guy than me

I think that as long as you play in your own league in terms of looks + good exposure, you should be just fine even as a 5/10 guy

from my experience 5s and bellow are quite easy for me

6s are a bit more challenging but still somehow easy if you know how to tackle them

7s I would say is like medium in terms of the challenge

8+ are hard and you need good inner game + experience to get them

the main issue that I have is having exposure to 7 and upwards. It seems that most of them do not frequent the same places I frequent, and I frequent the good places . Difficult to actually have exposure with them

 

[Slowhandluke]

Welp, there goes the neighborhood @Cheeky_James

Your entire theory falsified in a single study.

Study Finds Nearly Half of Singles Have Fallen for Someone They Weren't Initially Attracted To

It’s not always love at first sight.

www.yahoo.com

women are hardwired to want to be chased. Because of this women are hardwired to initially to find most men to be unattractive. If they didn't, then women would not be chased - women would just hump into bed.

Chasing helps pair bond couples. Feminist break this cycle by saying that women find most men unattractive because most MEN are INHERENTLY unattractive which is false. Because of the narrative most men are INHERENTLY unattractive then the me-too and the withdrawal consent, etc is viable...

Most older Feminist are noticing as they get older, yes, they are human after all. Their poop does stink too... but now, they have no one, and they can can no longer pair bond with a guy...

 

[Mertz09]

women are hardwired to want to be chased. Because of this women are hardwired to initially to find most men to be unattractive. If they didn't, then women would not be chased - women would just hump into bed.

Chasing helps pair bond couples. Feminist break this cycle by saying that women find most men unattractive because most MEN are INHERENTLY unattractive which is false. Because of the narrative most men are INHERENTLY unattractive then the me-too and the withdrawal consent, etc is viable...

Most older Feminist are noticing as they get older, yes, they are human after all. Their poop does stink too... but now, they have no one, and they can can no longer pair bond with a guy...

and if they are that way. Then they don’t deserve anyone.

 

[Mertz09]

and if they are that way. Then they don’t deserve anyone.

Then they should die alone. With no one and nobody to talk to.

 

[zekko]

you are a Master Don Juan my friend.
Anointed by SoSuave!

Well, I know all the dogma.