Epicwinguy
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Let's be real here, some women 30+ are smoking hot. Do the same rules apply when trying to get with those girls?
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
SargeMaximus
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I was with a 6.5 52 year old for much of last year. Amazing sex since she knew I was out of her league
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Although I don't agree with all of Caleb Jones' content since Krauser exposed him as a cuck, he does lay out a good construct in the video and article below. It's the same basic content, it's whatever form you prefer. The same basics covered in "The Rational Male" (Iron Rules of Tomassi) will apply in all age groups, there are some slight tactics variations to do with women in various age groups. Jones covers them below.
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Ages Of Women And Their Differences - Alpha Male 2.0
I’m one of the few guys I know who have dated, in large numbers, women in all age groups, from age 18 to 49. Here is a general description of the age ranges of women and how they differ from each other. Disclaimer: As is...
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52 year old 6.5 is an oxymoron
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Giovanni SouthSide
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30-35 year old attention hoes are the worse specimen of female breed in existence. Hit and run material.
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@Epicwinguy For sake of a more accurate discussion, define "rules". There are some differences in what they look for. The younger ones have less hang ups. Older ones are more leary.
But def that 30-35 yo group is the most ridiculous.
But def that 30-35 yo group is the most ridiculous.
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ThisIsSparta
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Agreed, around 30 they go nuts. Desperate and aggressive to get the man they "deserve", which submits to their will and commits his life and resources to her wellbeing. There are allways ecceptions to the rule of course.
The ones which "commit" to not having kids tend to be more relaxed between 30 and 40, become REALLY desperate when 40+ and realize that they actually DO want to have kids.
Best times i had were with girls around 25 +/- couple of years.
The ones which "commit" to not having kids tend to be more relaxed between 30 and 40, become REALLY desperate when 40+ and realize that they actually DO want to have kids.
Best times i had were with girls around 25 +/- couple of years.
rick.deckard
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Agree partly. The childless ones are worst in my opinion. But ladies who already gave birth at that age tend to be much more relaxed. So, I believe it has got to do with hormonal balance which gets in disorder once they hit 30 and had no babies. But at 40 they are indeed bat shoot crazy.
ThisIsSparta
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I left single moms out of the equation. I can partly agree as well, they tend to be more relaxed at 30, unless they want to lock you down with another kid..... and thats the danger when dating single moms, you never know ....
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
rick.deckard
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True. However if I was to choose, I'd still prefer the single mom over the one who completely lost it
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These broads are the same the world over. Everything you two guys just said applies here in the USATrue. However if I was to choose, I'd still prefer the single mom over the one who completely lost it
rick.deckard
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Maybe the amount of feminism thrown in that adds to the story varies a little between different cultures
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The day I can't pickup girls under 30, I would rely on escorts, sugar arrangement or beta bucks. Hell, even going to Asia if necessary. I wouldn't mind spending a fraction of what I make to enjoy having sex with an attractive girl.
I don't mind reading the jealous comments from older women. Deep down they know you bring value to be able to sleep with a younger woman.
I don't mind reading the jealous comments from older women. Deep down they know you bring value to be able to sleep with a younger woman.
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From my experience, its usually much easier to pull girls in that age range and have sex with them.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
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Advice from the old lady:
Value is always relative. Those with high value have choices and options no matter what age they are, men or women.
The landscape is always dynamic. A 52 year old (man or woman) is going to have a different perspective and different values than a 25 year old man or woman. At times the age differences create a great divide in values, but that varies depending on an individual’s relative value and expectations
Charm and social proof change over time as does what is most valued to an individual.
So it’s a more nuanced equation going on.
Value is always relative. Those with high value have choices and options no matter what age they are, men or women.
The landscape is always dynamic. A 52 year old (man or woman) is going to have a different perspective and different values than a 25 year old man or woman. At times the age differences create a great divide in values, but that varies depending on an individual’s relative value and expectations
Charm and social proof change over time as does what is most valued to an individual.
So it’s a more nuanced equation going on.