Epicwinguy
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Let's be real here, some women 30+ are smoking hot. Do the same rules apply when trying to get with those girls?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
SargeMaximus
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I was with a 6.5 52 year old for much of last year. Amazing sex since she knew I was out of her league
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Although I don't agree with all of Caleb Jones' content since Krauser exposed him as a cuck, he does lay out a good construct in the video and article below. It's the same basic content, it's whatever form you prefer. The same basics covered in "The Rational Male" (Iron Rules of Tomassi) will apply in all age groups, there are some slight tactics variations to do with women in various age groups. Jones covers them below.
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Ages Of Women And Their Differences - Alpha Male 2.0
I’m one of the few guys I know who have dated, in large numbers, women in all age groups, from age 18 to 49. Here is a general description of the age ranges of women and how they differ from each other. Disclaimer: As is...
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52 year old 6.5 is an oxymoron
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Giovanni SouthSide
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30-35 year old attention hoes are the worse specimen of female breed in existence. Hit and run material.
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@Epicwinguy For sake of a more accurate discussion, define "rules". There are some differences in what they look for. The younger ones have less hang ups. Older ones are more leary.
But def that 30-35 yo group is the most ridiculous.
But def that 30-35 yo group is the most ridiculous.
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ThisIsSparta
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Agreed, around 30 they go nuts. Desperate and aggressive to get the man they "deserve", which submits to their will and commits his life and resources to her wellbeing. There are allways ecceptions to the rule of course.
The ones which "commit" to not having kids tend to be more relaxed between 30 and 40, become REALLY desperate when 40+ and realize that they actually DO want to have kids.
Best times i had were with girls around 25 +/- couple of years.
The ones which "commit" to not having kids tend to be more relaxed between 30 and 40, become REALLY desperate when 40+ and realize that they actually DO want to have kids.
Best times i had were with girls around 25 +/- couple of years.
rick.deckard
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Agree partly. The childless ones are worst in my opinion. But ladies who already gave birth at that age tend to be much more relaxed. So, I believe it has got to do with hormonal balance which gets in disorder once they hit 30 and had no babies. But at 40 they are indeed bat shoot crazy.
ThisIsSparta
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I left single moms out of the equation. I can partly agree as well, they tend to be more relaxed at 30, unless they want to lock you down with another kid..... and thats the danger when dating single moms, you never know ....
“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
rick.deckard
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True. However if I was to choose, I'd still prefer the single mom over the one who completely lost it
BillyPilgrim
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These broads are the same the world over. Everything you two guys just said applies here in the USATrue. However if I was to choose, I'd still prefer the single mom over the one who completely lost it
rick.deckard
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Maybe the amount of feminism thrown in that adds to the story varies a little between different cultures
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The day I can't pickup girls under 30, I would rely on escorts, sugar arrangement or beta bucks. Hell, even going to Asia if necessary. I wouldn't mind spending a fraction of what I make to enjoy having sex with an attractive girl.
I don't mind reading the jealous comments from older women. Deep down they know you bring value to be able to sleep with a younger woman.
I don't mind reading the jealous comments from older women. Deep down they know you bring value to be able to sleep with a younger woman.
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From my experience, its usually much easier to pull girls in that age range and have sex with them.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
BeExcellent
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Advice from the old lady:
Value is always relative. Those with high value have choices and options no matter what age they are, men or women.
The landscape is always dynamic. A 52 year old (man or woman) is going to have a different perspective and different values than a 25 year old man or woman. At times the age differences create a great divide in values, but that varies depending on an individual’s relative value and expectations
Charm and social proof change over time as does what is most valued to an individual.
So it’s a more nuanced equation going on.
Value is always relative. Those with high value have choices and options no matter what age they are, men or women.
The landscape is always dynamic. A 52 year old (man or woman) is going to have a different perspective and different values than a 25 year old man or woman. At times the age differences create a great divide in values, but that varies depending on an individual’s relative value and expectations
Charm and social proof change over time as does what is most valued to an individual.
So it’s a more nuanced equation going on.