MacAvoy
Banned
wazzup wes?
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
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- Thread starter RedPill
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
i just wanted to update everyone about the chat room. a change has been made to the room. you must now pm me with your email address, so that an invite can be sent to your email account allowing you access to the room. if you have already done this and have been invited before, you should have no problem logging in. if you have not been invited, you will need to be in order to log in. we are hoping that this will help to rid some of the problems that we have recently experienced concerning a few trolls. i am sorry for any inconvenience, but hope that you will return to the chat room anyway.
tonight's topic is "where do i spend my tax refund?"
next sunday night's topic is "guys way beyond afc.. with mikeyikes as chat leader."
we are also encouraging other members to set up their own time slots with chat topics. members have requested that someone lead chat during the evening on the topic of general fitness. warboss alex was doing this, however we have not heard from him in quite some time.
another thing members are wanting is for someone to come into the chat room and set time slots for topics during the day time hours.
our goal is to have a schedule such as the following example :
monday 10am coffee talk
1pm free yourself from the matrix
6pm general fitness
8 pm peacocking 101
midnight late night with whoever
tuesday 10am coffee talk
1pm ltr talk
6pm general fitness
8pm bootcamp
midnight late night with whoever
wednesday 10am coffee talk
1pm positive attitudes
6pm general fitness
8pm redine yourself
midnight late night with whoever
etc for each night of the week
sunday night at 9pm will still be the weekly round table that many have come to love and look forward to topics that change each and every week.
we have people from all over the place popping in and out missing each other, so the number one complaint is that they can not find anyone in chat when they can chat. so if you have a topic that you feel needs to be discussed weekly or have knowledge in an area and can be in the chat during a certain time frame... chime in and let us know.
the goal is for everyone that wants to participate in live real time chat, to be able to with time frames and topics set up for those interested in participating.
feel free to contact me with any concerns or questions.
tonight's topic is "where do i spend my tax refund?"
next sunday night's topic is "guys way beyond afc.. with mikeyikes as chat leader."
we are also encouraging other members to set up their own time slots with chat topics. members have requested that someone lead chat during the evening on the topic of general fitness. warboss alex was doing this, however we have not heard from him in quite some time.
another thing members are wanting is for someone to come into the chat room and set time slots for topics during the day time hours.
our goal is to have a schedule such as the following example :
monday 10am coffee talk
1pm free yourself from the matrix
6pm general fitness
8 pm peacocking 101
midnight late night with whoever
tuesday 10am coffee talk
1pm ltr talk
6pm general fitness
8pm bootcamp
midnight late night with whoever
wednesday 10am coffee talk
1pm positive attitudes
6pm general fitness
8pm redine yourself
midnight late night with whoever
etc for each night of the week
sunday night at 9pm will still be the weekly round table that many have come to love and look forward to topics that change each and every week.
we have people from all over the place popping in and out missing each other, so the number one complaint is that they can not find anyone in chat when they can chat. so if you have a topic that you feel needs to be discussed weekly or have knowledge in an area and can be in the chat during a certain time frame... chime in and let us know.
the goal is for everyone that wants to participate in live real time chat, to be able to with time frames and topics set up for those interested in participating.
feel free to contact me with any concerns or questions.
Interceptor
Master Don Juan
I can't get in.
It doesn't recognize my pasword.
edit
NVM. getting a pw now.
It doesn't recognize my pasword.
edit
NVM. getting a pw now.
LovelyLady
Senior Don Juan
- Joined
- Jun 7, 2007
- Messages
- 437
- Reaction score
- 41
I tried my password 3 times - it's not working... AAARGH!
penkitten
Master Don Juan
it shouldnt have a password, and you have been invited so it should let you in. let me know if this continues.Interceptor said:
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
you should be able to get in tooLovelyLady said:
let me know if it doesnt let you in
MacAvoy
Banned
I'm in there now
Pen, how many people have registered with email now?
Pen, how many people have registered with email now?
penkitten
Master Don Juan
25 plus 1 for meMacAvoy said:
penkitten
Master Don Juan
come on in for sunday night chat tonight's topic: guys way beyond afc.. with mikeyikes as chat leader
penkitten
Master Don Juan
next sundays topic 3-9-08
Dating non-exclusively with redpill as chatleader
Dating non-exclusively with redpill as chatleader
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
you shouldChrizZ said:
i will re invite you
ThunderMaverick
Master Don Juan
- Joined
- Mar 19, 2004
- Messages
- 1,945
- Reaction score
- 70
- Age
- 45
Hm I got in
I registered
Now I can't get back in.
Now it says I need an administrator password?
I registered
Now I can't get back in.
Now it says I need an administrator password?
penkitten
Master Don Juan
you should not need one.ThunderMaverick said:
pm me your email addy and i will send you an invite back into chat.
RedPill
Master Don Juan
It's on.
Click the link on the first page of this thread to join in if you've registered. If not, PM penkitten.
Click the link on the first page of this thread to join in if you've registered. If not, PM penkitten.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
RedPill
Master Don Juan
3/9/08 Chat Wrap
This past chat on non-exclusive dating (and boobs, and jackbauer's hate-fest with his ex ) was the most successful chat to date in terms of both participation and productive discussion. Thank you to everyone who stopped in and took part.
Hopefully we can continue to improve these events so that they're both entertaining and meaningful discussions. If you have any feedback, advice, or suggestions, feel free to share them here.
One point of clarification, these chats "officially" start at 10:00 Eastern USA time (-5:00 GMT), though you're certainly welcome to arrive earlier or later, as the room is free. penkitten is the room admin, so if you have any issues related to accessing it, PM her.
Have a great week!
This past chat on non-exclusive dating (and boobs, and jackbauer's hate-fest with his ex
) was the most successful chat to date in terms of both participation and productive discussion. Thank you to everyone who stopped in and took part. Hopefully we can continue to improve these events so that they're both entertaining and meaningful discussions. If you have any feedback, advice, or suggestions, feel free to share them here.
One point of clarification, these chats "officially" start at 10:00 Eastern USA time (-5:00 GMT), though you're certainly welcome to arrive earlier or later, as the room is free. penkitten is the room admin, so if you have any issues related to accessing it, PM her.
Have a great week!
penkitten
Master Don Juan
gtown you were sent an invite for chat, you can edit your post above and remove your email addy if you want to .
penkitten
Master Don Juan
tonights topic:
building your compelling reality
chat leader : redpill
building your compelling reality
chat leader : redpill
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.