"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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ive just made the same mistake that bought me to this site years ago.

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Ive gone and gotten myself in the friends zone, not officially, but i know the signs and i know how i felt last time, and this is worse.

What makes it worse is that my best pal is ****ing the chick that im in the zone with, and im the only person that knows this.

What sucks more is i cant emotionally detach myself from this, and i might have to tell my friend (also my wingman) about how i feel and all hell could break loose.

Still once an AFC always an AFC i guess.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Docs said:
How the hell did that happen?
DJA and DJB want a girl..dja gives it a shot and goes into fz,djb lets him try because they're buddies,djb sees dja in fz and makes his move..djb fvcks the girl
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Dude i don't know exactly what you're saying but i don't know this guy.I'm just making an (well)educated guess here..(because i did this before,also i don't live in UK)
 

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Heh now that i read over the thread again it kinda makes sense but wte you'll have to wait and hear the truth from the OP
 

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bah, get over her, Buck. There are plenty of other women.

The only real trouble is when you can't succeed with *any* women...that's the problem I've been having lately. ;)
 

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GloriouslyInsane said:
DJA and DJB want a girl..dja gives it a shot and goes into fz,djb lets him try because they're buddies,djb sees dja in fz and makes his move..djb fvcks the girl
Thats not quite how it happend, DJA has only recently realised feelings, DJb has somehow came from nowhere.perhaps its because im jealous i dont know.

Im not entirely sure if am in the friendzone, all i know is i definatley havve oneitis.

and i have no proof my pal's being honest. what a mess.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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He was your pal before this...i never said dja and djb agreed to that scenario.I came from nowhere aswell when i pulled this stunt unknowingly(sp?) to my bud..i explained later and he was pretty much ok though.Hey he doesn't own her..getting sidetracked here.
Just next man,you're getting in a ****load of emotional stress if you pursue.
 

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Well, yea my thats what happend, ive said im ok with it, hes even asked me if i want him to stop. and i said exactly that "i dont own her man" and its my prob ill deal with it.

But the truth is im cracking up, i dont know how we got from having girls as social proof to this.

its crazy.
 

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What makes it worse is that my best pal is ****ing the chick that im in the zone with, and im the only person that knows this.
If nobody else knows but you, you have to just keep it to yourself and spin a lot more plates. Telling anybody will only make matters way, way worse. Focus on possibilities, rather than lost causes. If it bugs you too much, just do your best to minimizem contact with them, especially her, at least until you're cured.
 

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Bonhomme said:
If nobody else knows but you, you have to just keep it to yourself and spin a lot more plates. Telling anybody will only make matters way, way worse. Focus on possibilities, rather than lost causes. If it bugs you too much, just do your best to minimizem contact with them, especially her, at least until you're cured.
Golden tip, follow to the line.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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