"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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ive just made the same mistake that bought me to this site years ago.

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Ive gone and gotten myself in the friends zone, not officially, but i know the signs and i know how i felt last time, and this is worse.

What makes it worse is that my best pal is ****ing the chick that im in the zone with, and im the only person that knows this.

What sucks more is i cant emotionally detach myself from this, and i might have to tell my friend (also my wingman) about how i feel and all hell could break loose.

Still once an AFC always an AFC i guess.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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GloriouslyInsane

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Docs said:
How the hell did that happen?
DJA and DJB want a girl..dja gives it a shot and goes into fz,djb lets him try because they're buddies,djb sees dja in fz and makes his move..djb fvcks the girl
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Dude i don't know exactly what you're saying but i don't know this guy.I'm just making an (well)educated guess here..(because i did this before,also i don't live in UK)
 

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Heh now that i read over the thread again it kinda makes sense but wte you'll have to wait and hear the truth from the OP
 

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bah, get over her, Buck. There are plenty of other women.

The only real trouble is when you can't succeed with *any* women...that's the problem I've been having lately. ;)
 

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GloriouslyInsane said:
DJA and DJB want a girl..dja gives it a shot and goes into fz,djb lets him try because they're buddies,djb sees dja in fz and makes his move..djb fvcks the girl
Thats not quite how it happend, DJA has only recently realised feelings, DJb has somehow came from nowhere.perhaps its because im jealous i dont know.

Im not entirely sure if am in the friendzone, all i know is i definatley havve oneitis.

and i have no proof my pal's being honest. what a mess.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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He was your pal before this...i never said dja and djb agreed to that scenario.I came from nowhere aswell when i pulled this stunt unknowingly(sp?) to my bud..i explained later and he was pretty much ok though.Hey he doesn't own her..getting sidetracked here.
Just next man,you're getting in a ****load of emotional stress if you pursue.
 

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Well, yea my thats what happend, ive said im ok with it, hes even asked me if i want him to stop. and i said exactly that "i dont own her man" and its my prob ill deal with it.

But the truth is im cracking up, i dont know how we got from having girls as social proof to this.

its crazy.
 

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What makes it worse is that my best pal is ****ing the chick that im in the zone with, and im the only person that knows this.
If nobody else knows but you, you have to just keep it to yourself and spin a lot more plates. Telling anybody will only make matters way, way worse. Focus on possibilities, rather than lost causes. If it bugs you too much, just do your best to minimizem contact with them, especially her, at least until you're cured.
 

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Bonhomme said:
If nobody else knows but you, you have to just keep it to yourself and spin a lot more plates. Telling anybody will only make matters way, way worse. Focus on possibilities, rather than lost causes. If it bugs you too much, just do your best to minimizem contact with them, especially her, at least until you're cured.
Golden tip, follow to the line.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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