"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Is this scenario realistic?

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Originally posted by Giovanni Casanova
It depends on the results of the scientific experiments. :D
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im so glad i rock at science!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Originally posted by penkitten
im so glad i rock at science!
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If I had known the Mature Man forum could be this fun, I'd have turned 25 a long time ago!
 
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Originally posted by Giovanni Casanova
If I had known the Mature Man forum could be this fun, I'd have turned 25 a long time ago!
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well duh! thats why i turned 25 two years ago haha
 
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Originally posted by penkitten
well duh! thats why i turned 25 two years ago haha
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Why didn't you tell me sooner? Now it's going to take a lot of time and energy to get me caught up. You'd better be up for it.
 
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Originally posted by Giovanni Casanova
Why didn't you tell me sooner? Now it's going to take a lot of time and energy to get me caught up. You'd better be up for it.
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me = always up for it
the question really is ..
can YOU handle me?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Originally posted by penkitten
the question really is ..
can YOU handle me?
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The answer is yes.

Get up here and I'll prove it.
 
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Originally posted by penkitten
\/\/h3r3 teh h3|_|_ r my |<3y5??
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I don't know, but every minute you're there and not here is another minute your world isn't getting rocked.

:D
 
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Originally posted by Giovanni Casanova
I don't know, but every minute you're there and not here is another minute your world isn't getting rocked.

:D
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rocked?
you better be planning to knock it off its axle:)
 
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Originally posted by penkitten
rocked?
you better be planning to knock it off its axle:)
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You talk big but I don't see you naked in my bed yet.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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By the way everyone, this is what we call "thread hijacking". It should be avoided.

Unless the thread is already really stupid.
 
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You saucy kids are getting me all hot and bothered! Get a room!

Now what was this thread about?...

Oh yeah, the unrealistic scenario. Already commented on this...

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Originally posted by Giovanni Casanova
I'm putting on my robe and wizard hat right now.


:D Ten points for anyone who gets that joke.
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Theres also a really funny bash.org joke about that. Too lazy to look right now.

Uh oh, i'm 18 and in the mature men forum.

*See's P_S*

AHHHHHH HE'S GONNA EAT ME!!!.

*runs*
 
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Originally posted by baseballDJ
Hahahaha
(no offense P_S but it is funny)

This thread made my night.
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its making our nite too ...for now
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Originally posted by Gipper
You saucy kids are getting me all hot and bothered! Get a room!

wash yer sheets casanova... penkitten is coming over to play
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Oh boy. :)

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Originally posted by Gipper
Oh boy. :)

Gipper
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It's like you said, Gip. Things happen to me.

Penkitten... Just call me catnip. I' ll drive you out of your mind.
 
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Originally posted by Giovanni Casanova
It's like you said, Gip. Things happen to me.

Penkitten... Just call me catnip. I' ll drive you out of your mind.
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promise??
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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