In between a married couples battle for son.

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This isn't just about dating a single mom... which already comes with enough pitfalls.

Add ex-trouble. Add that she doesn't have at least 50/50 custody which is very strange for a woman unless there's a good reason. Add alcoholism. Add psychosis.

And this is just what we've heard in a few posts from him.

Yeah she is pleasant to be around. You think that a nice woman without all that baggage wouldn't be pleasant to be around??
 

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From my exp ALL women can mess up your life and I dont even think alcohol, psychosis, past children even correlate with bad outcomes for men.

I think in the Manosphere there has been COPE regarding how bad things are and the cope is to get a GOOD woman. But that advice doesnt seem to have helped men as it has been put out there for 15 years and I dont see it working out. Both my brother and cousin married such 'good' and traditional women but they still got burned in divorce.

I think to critisize this woman is to elevate other 'normal' women.

All women are the same imo. It is just how men deal with women that truly affect outcomes.
 

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From my exp ALL women can mess up your life and I dont even think alcohol, psychosis, past children even correlate with bad outcomes for men.

I think in the Manosphere there has been COPE regarding how bad things are and the cope is to get a GOOD woman. But that advice doesnt seem to have helped men as it has been put out there for 15 years and I dont see it working out. Both my brother and cousin married such 'good' and traditional women but they still got burned in divorce.

I think to critisize this woman is to elevate other 'normal' women.

All women are the same imo. It is just how men deal with women that truly affect outcomes.
Why not just throw in murderers and thieves too?

Being good and traditional only means something if the woman is ACTUALLY like that and not simply playing a role for her family because that's what she thinks she has to do.

People will always become who they are sooner or later no matter how they were raised. It's the man's job to determine if it's all a rouse or of it's who she really is.
 

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Being with an alcoholic isn't lovely. Take off the rose colored glasses.

Let's see what you think in 6 months.
Yeah, i'm aware of this. When i first went exclusive with her, i had a feeling it would'nt last the week.
 

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Most ppl out there in the manosphere cannot help you. Manoshpere advice is usually to eject and find a submissive, pure, childlress unicorn.

I cannot give you advice about this situation as I dont know how to help women who have lost custody. If she is nice and you enjoy her company then you can continue it, probably things will settle down as these custody battles and divorce usually become stable afaik, so you can wait it out and tolerate the current drinking.

Other than that what kind of advice can anyone give you? Men here are telling you to eject even though you seem happy with this girl overall but most relationships have issues and come to an end so if you enjoy being with someone then just make the most of it i guess or leave now i dunno if you want this to be long term or str.
Why i ask in bold in my OP is because she is hinting at going to see her son, she thinks the husband will get very angry and she is scared of him (although she is embarrased to admit to it) I was just after some advice from posters who have been in a similar position. I told her that i will go with her so her husband cannot hurt her.

Appreciate the reply man. You are the first person that has actually answered my question.

i will see how this plays out.
 

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I doubt it. This is the sign of a desperate guy that takes whatever they can get no matter how flawed it is. Unless you are going for 2-4s.
I have had sex with a LOT of women. Some 9's some 8's some 4's.
 

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You're going to go with her to get the kid and serve as her bodyguard, with the whole ex/babydaddy dynamic going on??

This isn't going to end well at all.
 

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Been in a LTR with a girl for a couple month now. There are red flags before I agreed to be exclusive with her. I feel a real connection to her, but mainly I enjoy her company. The day we became exclusive I had ended up meeting her parents. They were real nice to me and made my dinner.

Im just after some advice. She is an alcoholic. She is still married. Her son lives with her husband and his new girlfriend. My girl is very upset about not being able to see her son. She says her ex is very controlling and that he also stopped his previous girlfriend from seeing her son. My girl says a big part of why she drinks is because she is upset by not seeing her son.

Anybody been in this situation where your girl is in a battle to get her child back? I know she has a lot of baggage. I'm 38...i've fuc*ed lots of women over the last 4 years,,,,,so happy enough enjoying this girl for a while, i can eject any time.
We often find ourselves trying to "white knight" women. You could keep this women in your rotation but it seems like too much of a headache for a long term relationship. You know her better than us to determine whether it is truly worth it.
 

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Why i ask in bold in my OP is because she is hinting at going to see her son, she thinks the husband will get very angry and she is scared of him (although she is embarrased to admit to it) I was just after some advice from posters who have been in a similar position. I told her that i will go with her so her husband cannot hurt her.

Appreciate the reply man. You are the first person that has actually answered my question.

i will see how this plays out.
Not a friend of mine , but from my cousin got with a single mom ... He even moved to her city / birth town .

They did enjoy each other and it seemed like everything was going to work out .

The father of her children was not a fan of this situation and tried him several times , but he was big and would always go out as the " winner "

until he got stabbed over 50 times .

Don't go to another man's territory where kids are involved and expect any rational thought from him.

Wish you the best
 

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Not a friend of mine , but from my cousin got with a single mom ... He even moved to her city / birth town .

They did enjoy each other and it seemed like everything was going to work out .

The father of her children was not a fan of this situation and tried him several times , but he was big and would always go out as the " winner "

until he got stabbed over 50 times .

Don't go to another man's territory where kids are involved and expect any rational thought from him.

Wish you the best
He is dropping child of at her parents. So i dont view it as his territory. She was pouring her heart out saying she wants to see her son. If father rocks up making trouble..so be it...but if he ever tries to lay a finger on her....i will kill HIM.

You're right in what you're saying though..he might resort to weapons. Thats why i will keep a hammer close by.
 

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He is dropping child of at her parents. So i dont view it as his territory. She was pouring her heart out saying she wants to see her son.
If she can’t exit her parents residence for any reason with her son, then the court has ruled that she’s not of suitable character or mental fitness to be left alone with the child …
Mentally healthy mothers usually get managing conservator custody.
 

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If father rocks up making trouble..so be it...but if he ever tries to lay a finger on her....i will kill HIM.

You're right in what you're saying though..he might resort to weapons. Thats why i will keep a hammer close by.
Now you're articulating that you're willing to go to prison... perhaps for a long time, since you've now stated that you won't have a problem with killing him... for this woman.

I hope this is either a troll post or you wake up.
 

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Yeah, i'm aware of this. When i first went exclusive with her, i had a feeling it would'nt last the week.
He is dropping child of at her parents. So i dont view it as his territory. She was pouring her heart out saying she wants to see her son. If father rocks up making trouble..so be it...but if he ever tries to lay a finger on her....i will kill HIM.

You're right in what you're saying though..he might resort to weapons. Thats why i will keep a hammer close by.
You are a fvcking idiot then and deserve anything that happens...

No idea why men want to inject themselves into situations they have no business being in and try and act the hero.

You will find out pretty quickly you are far more likely to be the fool than the hero.

This is high level simp sh!t right here.
 
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If she can’t exit her parents residence for any reason with her son, then the court has ruled that she’s not of suitable character or mental fitness to be left alone with the child …
Mentally healthy mothers usually get managing conservator custody.
No court ruling. It' a complicated situation. Im not gonna go into any more details.
 

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How To End A Relationship With An Alcoholic
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Enjoy a beautiful loving future with this woman and child after you murder the kid's dad. I'm sure they will see you as a hero.
More likely he will do everything for her and then find out one day she has been cheating on him the whole time. Women don't respect men who try to fix their problems like it's their job.
 
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