I'm just disappointed...

[BaronOfHair]

Any of you guys feel that way?

Back in The 2000s, The OGs around me were emphatic: "Avoid mixing booze and sex with women you've just met.... It's remarkably easy for a gal to claim r-pe afterwards". The barbarically forgotten Asa Baber counseled men similarly in his Playboy column during The 80s

This isn't new, and while I support changing some aspects of our legal system which essentially remove the burden of proof off of the state, there will NEVER be a day where bedding drunk chicks at bars isn't a foolish move

 

[nicksaiz65]

To add, I am in male/female support group once a week and a few of the guys stated they are now somewhat nervous about sexually escalating especially while drinking due to the Cornell 7 case.

Even when she consents! And also are more nervous cold approaching as well

It's lowered their trust and wouid simply rather avoid than to risk exactly what's happening in Cornell 7.

It's something they think about whereas prior to, they weren't concerned at all.

Any of you guys feel that way?

Tbh, I have no idea what the advice or takeaways would be to protect yourself and not end up in situations like this.

 

[Plinco]

Any of you guys feel that way?

No. Finding the right woman is in the long term existential.

Tbh, I have no idea what the advice or takeaways would be to protect yourself and not end up in situations like this.

The only thing I can think of is just be a good judge of character.

 

[nicksaiz65]

No. Finding the right woman is in the long term existential.



The only thing I can think of is just be a good judge of character.

I get what you’re saying, but check out how fast see switched up once she wasn’t invited to that party.

“Nothing was illegal, i luv u king” -> “You aren’t my friend, you’re covering your ass” -> rape charge.

I suppose you could say, you see who people really are when they don’t get what they want, when things are inconvenient for them, or they’re met with a boundary.

 

[Plinco]

I get what you’re saying, but check out how fast see switched up once she wasn’t invited to that party.

“Nothing was illegal, i luv u king” -> “You aren’t my friend, you’re covering your ass” -> rape charge.

I suppose you could say, you see who people really are when they don’t get what they want, when things are inconvenient for them, or they’re met with a boundary.

Back when I had roommates, I used to leave a five dollar bill laying on a table, just to see if someone would take it.

I also believe that enforcing honest boundaries also acts as a filter for the kind of people you want to have around. Of course I wouldn't know what to tell you about passive aggressive people.

 

[plumber]

I hate the timeline we're in...

this is a geeky answer to your point.

so for some others the timeline is nice; really nice. its a combination of when AND where.

when your in a social circle, notice that every place in town you go you see them. now... change social circles, and the new ones are everyplace. the point is that both are around, but you notice and are affected only by the ones your active with.

you choose your path, there are many paths available. this timeline is just one of every other timeline. pick a different goal and activities and your timeline will be very different.

you know how some people just look like clowns... they don't get it... they are blue pill, or nerds, or stupid... but the timeline they live in at the same time as yours is nice....

 

[RoadKing_Rabbit]

I hate the timeline we're in...

First, we've got the Lindsay Clancy trial where somehow we have women backing a mother who murdered 3 of her own children, raising her over $1million on GoFundMe, and doxxing the juror who held the line against a not-guilty verdict - to the point where he's being treated as more of a criminal than her.

Then we have this Cornell 7 thing where a girl can do drugs off a guy's d***, engage in 2 separate threesomes, continue texting the guy after the fact about how she had fun...only to change her mind (and her statement) 2 years later because she began facing the consequences of being labeled a sl**, and is now destroying these guys' lives.

And just today I saw a story about a woman in Houston killing her 4-year-old child after losing a custody battle, rather than turn her over to the husband. She, of course, tried to end her life, but failed, since that seems to be the recent trend.

What is this world? It pisses me off that I see so many of my "friends" on Instagram reposting stuff about these issues without the full story because they can't be bothered to read past the headline. Or maybe they just don't care, and it fits the narrative - who knows?

My friends and family know I'm promiscuous and would prefer I settle down with a good girl. But the older I get, and the more I look around, the less I'm sure those women still exist...this is ridiculous.

Anyway, I had a few drinks and saw stuff in my feed that pissed me off, so I wanted to put my thoughts out somewhere.

Well man, It's funny you say that. I too was upset last night and wasn't counting my drinks. LOL.

Women who are worth hanging onto are out there, and there are definitely more than a few. Problem is you've got to meet a lot of people. Not a problem for you. Chin up.

The other stuff is just life. People are more parrots or m0nkey see monk3y do type of people. Groupthink and belonging to the protest or cause du jour is the most important thing instead of facing the discomfort of developing your own thing called "PERSONALITY" which most sadly lack. Most people (arrogant or not, I don't care) are also stvpid.

 

[RoadKing_Rabbit]

Reminiscent of the Duke Lacrosse players case 20 years ago....

">>The Duke lacrosse rape hoax was a false accusation of sexual assault in 2006 against three university athletes in Durham, North Carolina.

The Accusation:

• The Party: Members of the Duke University men's lacrosse team hosted a party on March 13, 2006, and hired two women to dance.
  The Claim: A woman named Crystal Mangum stated that three players raped her at the house.

The Investigation and Resolution:

• DNA Evidence: Tests of the physical evidence did not match any of the accused players (David Evans, Collin Finnerty, and Reade Seligmann).
  Dropped Charges: North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper dismissed all charges in April 2007. He stated that the players were completely innocent.

The Aftermath:

• The Prosecutor: District Attorney Mike_Nifong faced disbarment (losing his license to practice law) and went to jail for contempt of court due to his unethical actions during the case.
  University Settlements: Duke University reached financial settlements with the wrongly accused players.
  The Confession: In December 2024, Mangum publicly admitted that she fabricated the entire assault story

I LOVED Tom Leykis' broadcast about the case! Unfortunately, finding the clip for the show on that date is ridiculously hard!

To answer the question, I don't personally feel that way, nor do most of my peers. Life and love always find a way and idiots will still keep the world populated. My only fear in life has remained the same since my 20s... Stupidity.

 

[Sega Genesis]

I LOVED Tom Leykis' broadcast about the case! Unfortunately, finding the clip for the show on that date is ridiculously hard!

I like listening to Megan Kelly who hosts a daily
talk show and podcast on SiriusXM and has over 4 million subscribers on YouTube. Politically she classifies herself as an "Independent"

She is a 100% No Nonsense, a lawyer and former journalist and reporter for Fox News and is extremely intelligent, informed, logical, I have become a big fan! Learned a lot from her too.

Anyway, she discusses the Cornell 7 case a lot and is outraged! She has followed closely and makes some brilliant points as to why filing charges is absurd and irresponsible.

Sunny Hostin, a former federal prosecutor who specialized in sex crimes has said "she read the Jane Doe's original nine-page 2024 statement" and "there is no way, according to her statement in 2024, that any prosecutor would have brought the case."

 

[Sega Genesis]

Sample of Megan Kelly's no-nonsense style after singer Olivia Rodrigo vocalized support for Jane Doe in the Cornell gang rape lawsuit.

"Of Rodrigo’s stance, Kelly said, “Shut up and stick to singing.”

“I liked you better when you were in front of a microphone singing your weird little depressing songs."

“Shut up. You don’t know what you’re talking about. It’s better to keep your mouth shut and let people suspect you’re an idiot than to open it and prove them right. Ever hear that saying? It applies to you, sweetheart.”

She went on, “We don’t need the participation of know-nothing morons who have been auto-tuned into fame and suddenly think they have something profound to say on the culture wars.”

She doesn't mess around!

 

[BaronOfHair]

“Shut up. You don’t know what you’re talking about. It’s better to keep your mouth shut and let people suspect you’re an idiot than to open it and prove them right

Megyn Kelly believing she's got any business lecturing someone as such might be absurd than Jim Baker taking Ted Haggard to task, for misusing the pulpit

 

[Sega Genesis]

Megyn Kelly believing she's got any business lecturing someone as such might be absurd than Jim Baker taking Ted Haggard to task, for misusing the pulpit

Baron, I respect your opinion and don't want to start a war lol but why is that?

Olivia Rodrigo made some absurd statements and clearly did not bother learning the facts of the case which was 'Jane Doe' (per her own text messages) consented to the threesome and other debauchery that occurred that night, went back for seconds, told Matt Ingalls how much she enjoyed it, wanted to hang out again and referred to him as her "King." At one point she had said "stop" and they stopped.

While some including MK may say their behavior that night was morally irresponsible and she does not condone, there was no coercion, it was not illegal and not rape. And what's happening to these young men right now is outrageous.

MK is no more outspoken than Howard Stern, Tom Leykis and other media personalities with strong opinions who host podcasts etc.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Baron, I respect your opinion and don't want to start a war lol but why is that?

Olivia Rodrigo made some absurd statements and clearly did not bother learning the facts of the case which was 'Jane Doe' (per her own text messages) consented to the threesome and other debauchery that occurred that night, went back for seconds, told Matt Ingalls how much she enjoyed it and referred to him as her "King." At one point she had said "stop" and they stopped.

While some including MK may say their behavior that night was morally irresponsible, including Jane Doe herself who willingly participated, it was not illegal and not rape. And what's happening to these young men right now is outrageous.

MK is no more outspoken than Howard Stern, Tom Leykis and other media personalities with strong opinions who host podcasts etc.

This is the same Megyn Kelly who deliberately sandbagged/misrepresented dude here

, didn't hesitate to perpetuate The War On Women conspiracy theory when she smelled a chance to benefit her

It's thus rich for HER of all folks to take the piss out of anyone else for deliberately uttering untruths before the cameras. If Ms. Kelly has anything approaching a brain left, she'll confine herself to regurgitating celebrity gossip

 

[Sega Genesis]

This is the same Megyn Kelly who deliberately sandbagged/misrepresented dude here

, didn't hesitate to perpetuate The War On Women conspiracy theory when she smelled a chance to benefit her

It's thus rich for HER of all folks to take the piss out of anyone else for deliberately uttering untruths before the cameras. If Ms. Kelly has anything approaching a brain left, she'll confine herself to regurgitating celebrity gossip

Fair. My opinion was based on what's happening and her commentary in this case.

 

[MatureDJ]

To add, I am in male/female support group once a week and a few of the guys stated they are now somewhat nervous about sexually escalating especially while drinking due to the Cornell 7 case.

Even when she consents! And also are more nervous cold approaching as well

It's lowered their trust and wouid simply rather avoid than to risk exactly what's happening in Cornell 7.

It's something they think about whereas prior to, they weren't concerned at all.

Any of you guys feel that way?

The only casual sex I plan to get from now on is one where I can tell the judge:

Your Honor, she said we could have coitus if I paid her $500, and that's what I did.

 

[MatureDJ]

I haven't been paying much attention to the case, but this thread got me interested.

2024 Cornell University rape allegations - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The System Worked in the Cornell Seven Case | National Review

Based on the information available to them at the time, the authorities handled the matter in keeping with the facts and the law.

www.nationalreview.com

By her own account, she drank heavily before heading to the fraternity. She danced flirtatiously with a friend she was interested in and then agreed to a threesome because of “how attracted” she was to him and “drunken curiousness.”

Another male enters the room, and he begins making out with her, with Jane Doe apparently lodging no objection. Her friend then wakes up and makes another lewd proposal that she declines. More males pile into the room. It’s suggested she take “more ketamine.” Vaguely recalling she had already snorted some at some point, she figured, “Why not do it a second time.”

When the guys, who behaved abysmally, ask if they can snort the drug off her body, she says, “Sure.”

There is a reason why "he said, she said" cases are almost impossible to convict.

 

[HaleyBaron]

 

[Sega Genesis]

There is a reason why "he said, she said" cases are almost impossible to convict.

In this case, there are actual text messages from this Jane Doe consenting to the threesome and other debauchery and her expressing her enjoyment of the night, wanting to hang out again and her love for one of the defendants referring to him as her "King." After this experience.

In 2024, the DA tossed out the case but has since been railroaded into reopening and it has now exploded. That is why there is so much outrage!.

This has all been documented.

I do think she consented wanting to please Matt Ingalls (defendant), as again she had texted him she loved him and he was her King. Said a bunch of other things too hoping to become his girlfriend

When she discovered it wasn't reciprocated and her reputation was also getting destroyed, she changed her tune and claimed she was gang raped.

It's very very wrong but also very sad for all involved imo, especially for the young men who exercised poor judgment for sure but did not break the law as defined.

 

[BaronOfHair]

@Sega Genesis "Not when there are actual text messages from this Jane Doe consenting to the threesome and other debauchery and her expressing her enjoyment of the night, wanting to hang out again and her love for one of the defendants referring to him as her "King"

Yeah, and on a side-note, let's acknowledge: "Sexually based offenses" are the ONLY crimes in which the accuser is allowed to remain anonymous. At the risk of giving Uncle Sam ideas, imagine a world in which we allowed such nonsense to occur in armed robbery cases

 

[nicksaiz65]

@Sega Genesis "Not when there are actual text messages from this Jane Doe consenting to the threesome and other debauchery and her expressing her enjoyment of the night, wanting to hang out again and her love for one of the defendants referring to him as her "King"

Yeah, and on a side-note, let's acknowledge: "Sexually based offenses" are the ONLY crimes in which the accuser is allowed to remain anonymous. At the risk of giving Uncle Sam ideas, imagine a world in which we allowed such nonsense to occur in armed robbery cases

The judge said that she has to remain private but the sleuths have already found her. Also I’m sorry, but people saying “Train Doe” cracks me up. Lol.