So, quote the person you are talking to which is 17shots. Not so obvious to you dumbass.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
I met that Armenian girl in NY
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
mrgoodstuff
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I thought about that too.
If so, it's likely due to sexual inexperience.
Who cares what you say or think. You clearly never made it past the 2nd grade.
No one's insulting you. You're getting objective feedback on your intelligence level. or lack thereof.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Yep. Nervous anxiety. Etc. Thats why he wanna marry her. His manhood is easily down over 50% with that flaw.
I've criticized a bunch of guys on here for being too cynical after a series of burned out relationships. But dave appears to be the opposite. He's never been in a relationship so he idealizes girls as either perfect or ugly, 10 or 0. He doesn't have a base of experience to draw from and he's become increasingly frightened as time passes. It's time for him to get that first one under his belt.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
I appreciate that criticism. I crush goals but had my guards up not LIVING.
Guys, chill. It won't matter in the end as Dave will not do anything positive, find multiple excuses and continue to whine about why he can't have a "10" Arminian woman who will never age and will have all his imaginary children and still have the body of an 18 year old virgin. Just sit back and watch the melodrama unfold.
devilkingx2
Master Don Juan
He always gets it so yes
He rarely applies it though.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
I've had experience with women who weren't in my league. It really doesn't help me at all. They've all been crazy over me
but again, I had a decent opportunity with somebody in my league on sunday and we got along great. It's not like I'm socially awkward or unprepared to handle myself with a beautiful woman. I just don't ever get any opportunities with anybody decent
I saw this very hot Korean chick at my gym with thick ass and legs for days and days today, good god I wanted to jump all over her. I just dunno wtf to say to get her interested in me. I feel like I'm annoying her
devilkingx2
Master Don Juan
Hmmm...
I'm prepared to handle myself in any kind of real/natural opportunity
cold approaching a random stranger who has headphones on at a gym is incredibly awkward
devilkingx2
Master Don Juan
Then cold approach someone who isn't wearing headphones?
Or do it until it stops being awkward? (This takes less than a day honestly)
“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
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Is she giving your eye contact or IOIs? Why do you feel like you are annoying her -- hot women have b1tch shields and do sh1t tests. You have to expect to feel that way because she probably gets hit on all the time. If she was an ugly girl then you'd feel welcome, right? The girls you don't want are nice to you. You have to apply game with her. You have skills to game right?
Try the 3 second rule. Give yourself 3 seconds to talk to a hot girl. Do not think, just say anything....like "Hey, I noticed something about you.....", she may say what? Then think of something.
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I think my advice is generally spot on. The last part of the above sentence is reinforcement that some people just refuse to accept they have flaws and fail to change. You have learned nothing while being on this forum. As proof of that, you have not progressed at all, even with solid advice given to you again and again.
I dont want a woman to fall in love with me. I want a woman to submit to me. The only submit when they respect you and they will never love you if they dont respect you.
I am out on advice for you from here on out. Good luck.
Deuces.