"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I am an average guy who has a harem of fashion models. Don’t make excuses y’all.

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:lol::rofl:

I'm about to OD on all this copium. Oh noes, poor lonely models. It must be so hard for them to go to a bar and find a Chad to rail them for the night or get a beta to buy her a meal and follow her on all her platforms and donate before she flys to the next city to repeat the process. You feck one of these "models" in your "harem" yet, OP
He hasn't, which is why this is funny af.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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:lol::rofl:

I'm about to OD on all this copium. Oh noes, poor lonely models. It must be so hard for them to go to a bar and find a Chad to rail them for the night or get a beta to buy her a meal and follow her on all her platforms and donate before she flys to the next city to repeat the process. You feck one of these "models" in your "harem" yet, OP?
Oh you still believe in Chads huh. Pretty soon I'll become Chad even though I'm physically not Chad.
 

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I haven't. But I have had very sexual conversations with a lot of them and I usually get them to open up about sex.
All this time, I naively thought that "having a harem" means a steady rotation of women you regularly have sex with. But apparently, following women on Instagram and supplying them with attention and validation, while getting nothing tangible in return, is what counts for having a harem these days...
 

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Sure you don't mean runaway you found passed out on the street?
honestly It's impressive if you're even able to get a girl with 10k+ followers to even read and respond to your DMs.

However there's a world of difference in getting a girl to text you back and to actually meet up with you.

A few months ago I was pretty impressed with myself for getting a rich (family) girl who's going to graduate law school with honors to talk dirty to me. Then she friendzoned me before our first date and started dating a guy with more money than me.
The wall is coming for these soon to be crazy cat ladies. The best play is to level up and pull younger feminine traditional not modern women drinking the education kool-aid. Carbon copy of a copy. So common.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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"Models meet charming people everyday" Actually no they don't. They really don't. Fashion models are some of the loneliest women you'll ever meet. Guys are intimidated to talk with them in real life, they only get hit on by creeps and douchebags, and even women don't want to be friends with them because they get jealous that their friend is getting all the attention.
Like all on SS I also say I'm good looking (lulz) -- though it have happen twice that girls ask me whether I'm a model. Beyond that I'm age discriminated at my current social sphere, I can confirm the above description as a male.

For instance, at the last party I hung out by myself and about four girls stopped by, initiated contact. They stay about half a minute, I initiate something very mundane, and they bounce or they did a drive by. Also have stories from dance floors and clubs where girls freak out too, have to hurl shots, etc.

And then there's of course the guys that won't talk to me because they see me as a competitor. They're young so it's fair to not expect something Greene-sophisticated machinery though. So, this limits me socially, it's an isolation. To top it off, I've rejected one BPD and one ADD girl at this place.

So, game and all that. There's a wide span in the degree of success in terms of lay/notch count among people on SS, and I wonder what actually is the determining factor(s). Many of the regulars are good at game/their **** together, so it's not that. I don't think the answer is trivial, otherwise we wouldn't be here.

Me, personally, have a life of extreme values/outliers in both tails (statistics) -- I attract great and lousy. I've been poor at handling those HBs that see me as a match, in terms of SMV/etc. Have been/am hard at work for solving this.

A serve for getting scolded, great thread for that.
 
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Honestly runway models don't do much for me...they are super skinny, have bodies like boys and half the time look weird.

Now swimsuit models or underwear models on the other hand...
I find swimsuit models and other types of models attractive (except IG models, those don't really appeal to me tbh), but runway models have this allure to me that I really find appealing. I love fashionable women and obviously runway models work in that industry. Their job is to basically showcase fashion.

Most runway models I have seen (including the one I was talking with for a while) aren't so skinny to the point of anorexia. A lot of them have pretty normal thin bodies. But their fashion sense is what I find especially attractive about them (hence why they're called "fashion models")
 
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The wall is coming for these soon to be crazy cat ladies. The best play is to level up and pull younger feminine traditional not modern women drinking the education kool-aid. Carbon copy of a copy. So common.
Sureeee lol
 
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I would consider a fun sexual conversation with a girl without spending money or talking too much about BS like boring girl drama to be a small victory; especially with a hot high status girl.

It's something, which is more than nothing. Although it isn't worthy of making a thread unless you're a beginner/newbie.
I am relatively new to IG game, and still have a lot to learn. But the fact that I'm talking to all of these really hot girls feels pretty amazing.
 

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I am relatively new to IG game, and still have a lot to learn. But the fact that I'm talking to all of these really hot girls feels pretty amazing.
Maybe try fecking one of them...it'll blow you mind.

Also for future reference....stalking women on IG =/= a harem...lol
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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So many guys here make excuses about their looks holding them back. I am an average looking guy without money or status who consistently attracts models. And many of them have been in famous magazines and have worked for top fashion brands. Don’t make excuses, do something. Anything. And you will find success. Start today.
If you have a "harem" you can pick and choose from, then why did you Google terms to bring up SoSuave and why did you set up an account?

Just curious.
 
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Just a hunch - but I am guessing this is probably a regular poster here who sets up different accounts just to troll.
I didn’t even know what SoSuave was before I made an account lol. And I just want to give other people confidence about themselves and know that I look like a lot of the guys here but attract models
 

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I have a friend who has a model face and is 6'3 even he struggles with women and getting hook ups. I promise an average bum dude is not even getting looked at by a model, nice try tho. This guy is the average delsuional poster on sosuave.com :rofl:, never providing any proof.
 

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I just saw this video and it reminded me of this thread.


ToddV talks about what the average model you'd meet in LA is like. And the reality of the lives of hot young girls.
 
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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Well y’all, I’m going to LA in a few weeks and I’m gonna actually try and meet up with some of these models I’ve been talking to on IG. And try and pull them too.
 
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