RangerMIke
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You really don't know much about sales. You sell in person. If you don't get her out, you can not sell.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
How to handle this Flake?
- Thread starter Sdives
- Start date
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
devilkingx2
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how long have you been working on this? it shouldn't take more than a couple weeks (at max), but basically whenever you've displayed all your most attractive personality traits in a natural way there's no more progress you can make without asking her out
Glassguy
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I just don't get it. The OP asked how to handle this when he sees her. Many good responses later the OP acts like he is making excuses as to why he can't be a man and ask her out.
I've said it before, is this what this forum has come to?
I wouldn't limp into the doctor to get feeling better to only tell him I'm not ready to feel better just yet.
Eye roll.
I've said it before, is this what this forum has come to?
I wouldn't limp into the doctor to get feeling better to only tell him I'm not ready to feel better just yet.
Eye roll.
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Its off an on. She seems a inexperienced. I may have to have her a tag along a time or two then do it.
devilkingx2
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you sound scared, lol.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
No, why?
devilkingx2
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you need to nut up and make a move soon fam
Well I'll get to it.
marmel75
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You can't ask her out? What kind of nonsense statement is that.
Of course, you can ask her out, you simply aren't because you are not confident enough that she will say yes, want to continue your fantasy of thinking she is actually interested in you and not come crashing back to reality if she says no, or are too afraid to act.
There is no "magic" amount of time that you need to wait. You aren't tipping the odds in your favor by waiting, quite the opposite actually.
I think she does but wants to get to know me more.She always asked when she can see me again in the gym. And jumped at the chance to go to the film. She said this twice while cutting me off. I wasn't even asking her. I was saying what I was up to. If she didnt like me, she would have not cut me off twice and insisted to go.She impulsively said this. Her enthusiasm was instant.
She chickened out. She probably over thought it and that got the best of her. She was to impulsive in wanting to go. She most likely likes me and that made her want to go so badly. a lot of women do that.
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
marmel75
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This is such bullish!t. Act like a man and stop being a b!tch and ask her out on a date.
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Are you a troll? Serious question.
Not to sound mean, but this thread smells like a troll or absolutely zero common sense on your part.
You say she likes you. You obviously like her.
That is called interest. 1+1= 2. So most people who have any social skills in this situation with a man card would ask her out. You are being a complete b!tch and almost waiting for her to ask you out. Is that what you're doing? Waiting for her to dry hump you at the gym? Because thats not how this works.
She shows interest.....and she has. You pick up on it......which you have. You ask her out directly, she says yes or no. If she says yes, you go out for drinks, make her laugh, listen attentively, kino her and try to smash her. Its actually a really simple process.
You are making this WAAAAYYYYYY too difficult. My work is done here. You just arent getting it or you are just seeking attention on this forum. Either way, I am out.
wifehunter
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I usually brush off flakes.
Dandruff sucks.
Dandruff sucks.
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Not from experience, but I heard Head and Shoulders will help get rid of flakes. No pun intended.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Im honestly not trolling. I dont really troll. I was just asking about this "flakiness". It was said earlier that it wasn't flakiness and I guess that was sort of true.
I was hoping for some anecdotes and stuff like that, like your own stories and philosophy, not any accusations.
wifehunter
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Pun?
sazc
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Listen, IMO if your really, truly made her day when you showed up, you would have already gotten into her panties. She's trying to hook you into her orbit by feeding you hopeful words.
That's why this thread sounds troll-ish - because the chick has managed to convince you that there's a chance, and that's what you are regurgitating.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.