"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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How to deal with angry betas?

Grifonculo

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Most of the time, when I approach women in social settings (like bars, restaurants, gyms, or clubs), I often have to deal with angry beta males who get very triggered by my behavior. Sometimes, they even give me angry looks — a few have even said things like I’m a “monster” or that I “play with women,” just because I initiated a conversation. Today, for example, a guy called me a "women player" simply because I didn’t reciprocate a girl's attention, refusing her.
(so it seems that even refusing girl trigger them).

Since I’m attracted to Asian women, it sometimes happens that when I approach a Chinese girl, there are Chinese guys nearby who react with very angry expressions — as if they’re sending me all their hatred. I’d say Chinese simps are the most emotional and resentful ones; they seem to harbor deep resentment toward a normal guy like me for approaching women. This evening I was at a chinese restaurant and I saw a table with 3 chinese girls, and one of them was very pretty. I just approached her while she wa eating and told her she is very pretty. The chinese waiter basically refused me a table, not letting me eating at the restaurant.


So here’s my point: the real issue is that these simps or beta males often try to ruin my reputation by telling women things like “stay away from him,” “he’s a bad guy,” or “be careful, he’s the type who hits on women.” These guys make the whole experience of approaching women really uncomfortable — it’s like walking on eggshells. I try not to care and just ignore them, but the reality is, they ruin a lot of potential opportunities for me.

How do you guys deal with betas?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Manure Spherian

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Most of the time, when I approach women in social settings (like bars, restaurants, gyms, or clubs), I often have to deal with angry beta males who get very triggered by my behavior. Sometimes, they even give me angry looks — a few have even said things like I’m a “monster” or that I “play with women,” just because I initiated a conversation. Today, for example, a guy called me a "women player" simply because I didn’t reciprocate a girl's attention, refusing her.
(so it seems that even refusing girl trigger them).

Since I’m attracted to Asian women, it sometimes happens that when I approach a Chinese girl, there are Chinese guys nearby who react with very angry expressions — as if they’re sending me all their hatred. I’d say Chinese simps are the most emotional and resentful ones; they seem to harbor deep resentment toward a normal guy like me for approaching women. This evening I was at a chinese restaurant and I saw a table with 3 chinese girls, and one of them was very pretty. I just approached her while she wa eating and told her she is very pretty. The chinese waiter basically refused me a table, not letting me eating at the restaurant.


So here’s my point: the real issue is that these simps or beta males often try to ruin my reputation by telling women things like “stay away from him,” “he’s a bad guy,” or “be careful, he’s the type who hits on women.” These guys make the whole experience of approaching women really uncomfortable — it’s like walking on eggshells. I try not to care and just ignore them, but the reality is, they ruin a lot of potential opportunities for me.

How do you guys deal with betas?
You can’t. What are you going to do, beat them up?
 

BaronOfHair

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How do you guys deal with betas?
One option:

When you next find yourself the target of opprobium like "You're a monster” or "You just play with women", retort:

"Chillax, my ninja... I haven't even sliced the tits off of this one's chest yet, much less stuffed them with wood wool, then played volleyball with each
 

Oatmeal31

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Most of the time, when I approach women in social settings (like bars, restaurants, gyms, or clubs), I often have to deal with angry beta males who get very triggered by my behavior. Sometimes, they even give me angry looks — a few have even said things like I’m a “monster” or that I “play with women,” just because I initiated a conversation. Today, for example, a guy called me a "women player" simply because I didn’t reciprocate a girl's attention, refusing her.
(so it seems that even refusing girl trigger them).

Since I’m attracted to Asian women, it sometimes happens that when I approach a Chinese girl, there are Chinese guys nearby who react with very angry expressions — as if they’re sending me all their hatred. I’d say Chinese simps are the most emotional and resentful ones; they seem to harbor deep resentment toward a normal guy like me for approaching women. This evening I was at a chinese restaurant and I saw a table with 3 chinese girls, and one of them was very pretty. I just approached her while she wa eating and told her she is very pretty. The chinese waiter basically refused me a table, not letting me eating at the restaurant.


So here’s my point: the real issue is that these simps or beta males often try to ruin my reputation by telling women things like “stay away from him,” “he’s a bad guy,” or “be careful, he’s the type who hits on women.” These guys make the whole experience of approaching women really uncomfortable — it’s like walking on eggshells. I try not to care and just ignore them, but the reality is, they ruin a lot of potential opportunities for me.

How do you guys deal with betas?
I doubt those women will take their opinions seriously, especially if they aren't familiar with them. I say ignore, maybe even tease them and shift your attention back to her.

My 2 cents
 

Clockwerk50

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I don’t have much to add, but your question reminds me a lot of the thread below about OP being put down by men when approaching women. Some of the responses there might help with your dilemma.

 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

Read more...

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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BillyPilgrim

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Call them a Karen
 
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