"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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How to deal with angry betas?

Grifonculo

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Most of the time, when I approach women in social settings (like bars, restaurants, gyms, or clubs), I often have to deal with angry beta males who get very triggered by my behavior. Sometimes, they even give me angry looks — a few have even said things like I’m a “monster” or that I “play with women,” just because I initiated a conversation. Today, for example, a guy called me a "women player" simply because I didn’t reciprocate a girl's attention, refusing her.
(so it seems that even refusing girl trigger them).

Since I’m attracted to Asian women, it sometimes happens that when I approach a Chinese girl, there are Chinese guys nearby who react with very angry expressions — as if they’re sending me all their hatred. I’d say Chinese simps are the most emotional and resentful ones; they seem to harbor deep resentment toward a normal guy like me for approaching women. This evening I was at a chinese restaurant and I saw a table with 3 chinese girls, and one of them was very pretty. I just approached her while she wa eating and told her she is very pretty. The chinese waiter basically refused me a table, not letting me eating at the restaurant.


So here’s my point: the real issue is that these simps or beta males often try to ruin my reputation by telling women things like “stay away from him,” “he’s a bad guy,” or “be careful, he’s the type who hits on women.” These guys make the whole experience of approaching women really uncomfortable — it’s like walking on eggshells. I try not to care and just ignore them, but the reality is, they ruin a lot of potential opportunities for me.

How do you guys deal with betas?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Manure Spherian

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Most of the time, when I approach women in social settings (like bars, restaurants, gyms, or clubs), I often have to deal with angry beta males who get very triggered by my behavior. Sometimes, they even give me angry looks — a few have even said things like I’m a “monster” or that I “play with women,” just because I initiated a conversation. Today, for example, a guy called me a "women player" simply because I didn’t reciprocate a girl's attention, refusing her.
(so it seems that even refusing girl trigger them).

Since I’m attracted to Asian women, it sometimes happens that when I approach a Chinese girl, there are Chinese guys nearby who react with very angry expressions — as if they’re sending me all their hatred. I’d say Chinese simps are the most emotional and resentful ones; they seem to harbor deep resentment toward a normal guy like me for approaching women. This evening I was at a chinese restaurant and I saw a table with 3 chinese girls, and one of them was very pretty. I just approached her while she wa eating and told her she is very pretty. The chinese waiter basically refused me a table, not letting me eating at the restaurant.


So here’s my point: the real issue is that these simps or beta males often try to ruin my reputation by telling women things like “stay away from him,” “he’s a bad guy,” or “be careful, he’s the type who hits on women.” These guys make the whole experience of approaching women really uncomfortable — it’s like walking on eggshells. I try not to care and just ignore them, but the reality is, they ruin a lot of potential opportunities for me.

How do you guys deal with betas?
You can’t. What are you going to do, beat them up?
 

BaronOfHair

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How do you guys deal with betas?
One option:

When you next find yourself the target of opprobium like "You're a monster” or "You just play with women", retort:

"Chillax, my ninja... I haven't even sliced the tits off of this one's chest yet, much less stuffed them with wood wool, then played volleyball with each
 

Oatmeal31

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Most of the time, when I approach women in social settings (like bars, restaurants, gyms, or clubs), I often have to deal with angry beta males who get very triggered by my behavior. Sometimes, they even give me angry looks — a few have even said things like I’m a “monster” or that I “play with women,” just because I initiated a conversation. Today, for example, a guy called me a "women player" simply because I didn’t reciprocate a girl's attention, refusing her.
(so it seems that even refusing girl trigger them).

Since I’m attracted to Asian women, it sometimes happens that when I approach a Chinese girl, there are Chinese guys nearby who react with very angry expressions — as if they’re sending me all their hatred. I’d say Chinese simps are the most emotional and resentful ones; they seem to harbor deep resentment toward a normal guy like me for approaching women. This evening I was at a chinese restaurant and I saw a table with 3 chinese girls, and one of them was very pretty. I just approached her while she wa eating and told her she is very pretty. The chinese waiter basically refused me a table, not letting me eating at the restaurant.


So here’s my point: the real issue is that these simps or beta males often try to ruin my reputation by telling women things like “stay away from him,” “he’s a bad guy,” or “be careful, he’s the type who hits on women.” These guys make the whole experience of approaching women really uncomfortable — it’s like walking on eggshells. I try not to care and just ignore them, but the reality is, they ruin a lot of potential opportunities for me.

How do you guys deal with betas?
I doubt those women will take their opinions seriously, especially if they aren't familiar with them. I say ignore, maybe even tease them and shift your attention back to her.

My 2 cents
 

Clockwerk50

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I don’t have much to add, but your question reminds me a lot of the thread below about OP being put down by men when approaching women. Some of the responses there might help with your dilemma.

 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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BillyPilgrim

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Call them a Karen
 
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