You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
So is sex an obligation or not?Teflon_Mcgee said:I don't think you should ever deny her sex.
My girl knows better than to ever deny me sex.
Likewise, I will never deny her sex.
Unless your wife is a 400pound beast. Then it's okay.
At times it is.Francisco d'Anconia said:So is sex an obligation or not?
yup. At times, this comes handy.joekerr31 said:just imagine that your banging that 20 year old check out girl at the grocery store.
jeez. this isn't that complicated.![]()
does that really happen?...the girl asking for sex and the guy saying no?...sounds like it'll never happen between me and my girl!~speed dawg said:Haha yeah I do that alot. Make her understand.
However, I do understand that it's not ALL about me in a relationship. So, dammit, I make sacrifices and fukk her sometimes even when I don't want to. My life sucks so bad.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Really?Teflon_Mcgee said:At times it is.
Really?Teflon_Mcgee said:One of the "should be" benefits of a relationship is that you have a guaranteed source of sex.
Really?Teflon_Mcgee said:Other times only one will be in the mood and then should try to seduce the other.
Really?Teflon_Mcgee said:But if "I just don't feel like it" is the best excuse then NO.
Really?Teflon_Mcgee said:You are obligated to sexually gratify your relationship partner.
Really?Teflon_Mcgee said:If you're not obligated to please them then they should be able to get it from someone who will give it.
REALLY????!!Teflon_Mcgee said:I don't know about everybody else, but I NEED sex.
REALLY?????!!!!!!Teflon_Mcgee said:Some people might need coddling or conversation. But for me, sex is a basic need.
Yeahhhhhhhhhh.....Teflon_Mcgee said:It's never a feeling of obligaton.
Ahhhhh, an obligation just to the woman, got'cha...Teflon_Mcgee said:But I still have made it clear to her that she is obligated to give it if I need it, as long as we are in a commited relationship.
Really?Teflon_Mcgee said:And if she won't she knows that we will not be together or we will have an open relationship so I can get it when I want.