"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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High specs but zero matches - Dating Apps

Arete

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I don't understand how you get matches.

I tried tinder, bumble, hinge, you name it. I used real pictures and all the bio is true. Admittedly, I had every part a little puffed up, but ... still nothing?

  • 28yo, looks like 16-18 on first picture (very good lighting, nike shirt for extra effect. Normaly I look like 20-24)
  • 1,88m / 6'2 (with shoes)
  • calisthenics athlete, 90kg / 200lbs (while bulking)
  • self-employment involving real estate (small scale)
  • second picture with me outside, using the technique from mens natural physique again (looks much wider from certain angles, especially with clothes on)
  • bio in a nutshell, is something like: "I'm very serious about sports and nutrition. I like philosophy. I used to be a nerd that liked Anime and Manga, but now I'm a manly, yet intellectual adrenalin junkie" ( In reality, I'm still a nerd at heart and I still get easily scared by stuff like heights, even if I'm acting fearless)

Is it the mirror selfie as first picture? Is it because I don't smile in pictures? Because I used only two pictures? Maybe they are too bland and straightforward? Do I have to be verified? Is it because I don't pay money for these apps?

Maybe I overdid it with the age thing or something else? The first picture with "Name, 28, self-employed - real estate" on it looks kind of comical. But is there such a thing as overdoing it in dating apps? I figured I'm competing with people that use AI and Photoshop?

Even if my pictures are trash, I would rate my looks as 6-8 depending on the groom. My biggest flaw currently is being extremely socially awkward with people I meet for the first time. I figured dating apps would negate that. Combined with all the other stuff, I thought this would give the impression of a 8-9?

I don't get it ...
 
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Plinco

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I don't understand how you get matches.

I tried tinder, bumble, hinge, you name it. I used real pictures and all the bio is true. Admittedly, I had every part a little puffed up, but ... still nothing?

  • 28yo, looks like 16-18 on first picture (very good lighting, nike shirt for extra effect. Normaly I look like 20-24)
  • 1,88m / 6'2 (with shoes)
  • calisthenics athlete, 90kg / 200lbs (while bulking)
  • self-employment involving real estate (small scale)
  • second picture with me outside, using the technique from mens natural physique again (looks much wider from certain angles, especially with clothes on)
  • bio in a nutshell, is something like: "I'm very serious about sports and nutrition. I like philosophy. I used to be a nerd that liked Anime and Manga, but now I'm a manly, yet intellectual adrenalin junkie" ( In reality, I'm still a nerd at heart and I still get easily scared by stuff like heights, even if I'm acting fearless)

Is it the mirror selfie as first picture? Is it because I don't smile in pictures? Because I used only two pictures? Maybe they are too bland and straightforward? Do I have to be verified? Is it because I don't pay money for these apps?

Maybe I overdid it with the age thing or something else? The first picture with "Name, 28, self-employed - real estate" on it looks kind of comical. But is there such a thing as overdoing it in dating apps? I figured I'm competing with people that use AI and Photoshop?

Even if my pictures are trash, I would rate my looks as 6-8 depending on the groom. My biggest flaw is being extremely socially awkward with people I meet for the first time. I figured dating apps would negate that. Combined with all the other stuff, I thought this would give the impression of a 8-9?

I don't get it ...
Don't use a mirror selfie as your first pic.

Dating apps are not at all to be taken seriously. I don't think I have a bio description in mine; let them find that stuff out about you when they meet you.

There's also a bs logarithm too, which I can't fully explain but I think I got around that by swiping left on most of the girls anyway.
 

Arete

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Don't use a mirror selfie as your first pic.
What should I do about this?

Try to fix it myself? None/light/heavy AI use? Go to a professional photographer? Or some guy specializing in dating apps?

Dating apps are not at all to be taken seriously. I don't think I have a bio description in mine; let them find that stuff out about you when they meet you.
Minimizing what I write? Removing it (almost) completely?

There's also a bs logarithm too, which I can't fully explain but I think I got around that by swiping left on most of the girls anyway.
I heard about this. But I don't really get it. Might be odd, but I actually read the bio, so my swiping is kind of slow. If it doesn't fit at all, like feminists and stuff, I swiped left, regardless of looks. I probably swiped right at only 10-20%. Is that good or bad practice?

I wondered, am I even swiping on real people?
 
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Plinco

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What should I do about this?

Try to fix it myself? None/light/heavy AI use? Go to a professional photographer? Or some guy specializing in dating apps?



Minimizing what I write? Removing it (almost) completely?



I heard about this. But I don't really get it. Might be odd, but I actually read the bio, so my swiping is kind of slow. If it doesn't fit at all, like feminists and stuff, I swiped left, regardless of looks. I probably swiped right at only 10-20%. Is that good or bad practice?

I wondered, am I even swiping on real people?
Use a different picture as your first, either doing something fun or in a business suit

I would just eliminate your bio, not that it matters too much anyway.

I don't know exactly how those logarithms work. Personally I just use my own filter. I can't tell you how to filter because they are based on your preferences.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Cheeky_James

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I don't understand how you get matches.

I tried tinder, bumble, hinge, you name it. I used real pictures and all the bio is true. Admittedly, I had every part a little puffed up, but ... still nothing?

  • 28yo, looks like 16-18 on first picture (very good lighting, nike shirt for extra effect. Normaly I look like 20-24)
  • 1,88m / 6'2 (with shoes)
  • calisthenics athlete, 90kg / 200lbs (while bulking)
  • self-employment involving real estate (small scale)
  • second picture with me outside, using the technique from mens natural physique again (looks much wider from certain angles, especially with clothes on)
  • bio in a nutshell, is something like: "I'm very serious about sports and nutrition. I like philosophy. I used to be a nerd that liked Anime and Manga, but now I'm a manly, yet intellectual adrenalin junkie" ( In reality, I'm still a nerd at heart and I still get easily scared by stuff like heights, even if I'm acting fearless)

Is it the mirror selfie as first picture? Is it because I don't smile in pictures? Because I used only two pictures? Maybe they are too bland and straightforward? Do I have to be verified? Is it because I don't pay money for these apps?

Maybe I overdid it with the age thing or something else? The first picture with "Name, 28, self-employed - real estate" on it looks kind of comical. But is there such a thing as overdoing it in dating apps? I figured I'm competing with people that use AI and Photoshop?

Even if my pictures are trash, I would rate my looks as 6-8 depending on the groom. My biggest flaw currently is being extremely socially awkward with people I meet for the first time. I figured dating apps would negate that. Combined with all the other stuff, I thought this would give the impression of a 8-9?

I don't get it ...
Send me your pics on pm.
You’re probably over rating your looks or something if that sort. I’ll give you honest feedback.
I’m doing very well on Hinge.
I’m approx 7-7.5 smv guy.
 

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@Arete "bio in a nutshell, is something like: "I'm very serious about sports and nutrition. I like philosophy. I used to be a nerd that liked Anime and Manga, but now I'm a manly, yet intellectual adrenalin junkie" ( In reality, I'm still a nerd at heart and I still get easily scared by stuff like heights, even if I'm acting fearless)...

I don't get it ..."

-Using corporate speak like "in a nutshell" may be diminishing your appeal. Encourage you to not "circle back" or "synergize" either

-Claiming "I USED to be an anime and Manga nerd", then following that up by informing readers that you're still "intellectual" and "a nerd heart" who "fears heights" has not just the ladies, but EVERYONE who reads those words envisioning a bloke like THIS
1:58-3:23

More so than a modern day equivalent to The Count Of Monte Cristo
 

BadBoy89

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I tried tinder, bumble, hinge, you name it. I used real pictures and all the bio is true. Admittedly, I had every part a little puffed up, but ... still nothing?
  • self-employment involving real estate (small scale)
That is what is hurting you.
 

BillyPilgrim

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Is it the mirror selfie as first picture? Is it because I don't smile in pictures? Because I used only two pictures? Maybe they are too bland and straightforward? Do I have to be verified? Is it because I don't pay money for these apps?
Yes to everything except maybe verfied. Uptight women like that lmao.
 

Cheeky_James

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@Arete

do some googling of “dominant smiles” look at the picture comparisons and just model that in pics is a quick solid tip from me.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Sigh ..here's your anwer


Your playing a losing game ,hence why you're feeling..lost.. its like asking " why don't I get rich"..or why dont I win with sports betting?

The ratio male /female is like 75/25. So every women can (In theory) pick out of 3 dudes. Needless to say that the hotter women can pick out of more dudes...

Apps should be SUPPLEMENTARY to your overall dating life. When a man like you depends on it, you will end up frustrated and dumbfounded. The apps are all run by ONE company and that company is now cosies up with the Whitehouse to cement their monopoly and ban users( read it up).

If you ain't that dude ,you ain't that dude...delete the apps and touch grass.

There's NOTHING you can do short term. Nothing , nada, nietsch. Prof pics, AI prompts and manipulated picture, its all obsolete as every AFC does that now...
 
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