"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Height vs Muscle, Take A Pick?
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Who Dares Win
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Given an average heigh and being muscular compared to being tall and average in body shape, I would take the second.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
lamath
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if this is an option it is obv anwser.
Apart from that, the question, in and out of itself is not really correct, given that height is perhaps the only thing in our outside appearance that we can't change and have zero control over. If you're skinny, you can bulk, if you're fat, you can slim down, if you don;t like your nose you can correct it but height is height and you just have to accept it.
Talking about women - not much relevance either. Height can give you some extra points only in the beginning. If you are about to get rejected, that'll be because she's not attracted to you - tall or short. Height may be just a rational excuse for her actions, same as if you are bold or have long arms....
P.S by the way, isn't it a common sense that if you are, say, 5’9”, you don't necessarily need to waste time targeting for instance a female volleyball player?! Stick to those who are 4-5 inches shorter than you.
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I'm 6ft. Not short but not tall (just watched the nba championship lol those fellas are tall). As for muscle, I've been lifting since softmore year high school.
To answer the questions, own and play the hand you were dealt to the best of your ability.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
soulforge
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Well Yeh.. If you have the height, you can work on getting muscular.
If your short... Well fuk all you can do about that.
marmel75
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Not if you are Richard the Frog...he was planning to go to Turkey and have his shins broken to add a few inches to his height...You need to distinguish "tall vs short" depending on geographical location. Obviously, the further south you go, the smaller would be the average height of the population. Now, 5’9” may be perfect for Latin America or Southern Europe but won't look good for Canada, much of Northern US or Northern European Countries, especially Scandinavia.
Apart from that, the question, in and out of itself is not really correct, given that height is perhaps the only thing in our outside appearance that we can't change and have zero control over. If you're skinny, you can bulk, if you're fat, you can slim down, if you don;t like your nose you can correct it but height is height and you just have to accept it.
Talking about women - not much relevance either. Height can give you some extra points only in the beginning. If you are about to get rejected, that'll be because she's not attracted to you - tall or short. Height may be just a rational excuse for her actions, same as if you are bold or have long arms....
P.S by the way, isn't it a common sense that if you are, say, 5’9”, you don't necessarily need to waste time targeting for instance a female volleyball player?! Stick to those who are 4-5 inches shorter than you.
To go with his bionic d!ck he already is packing...
In2theGame
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I'm 6'0 tall and can hit 6'1 when i wear my boots but for some girls that could be considered not tall enough or a short tiny girl may view that as really tall. Depends on the chick too.
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
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I thought he was going into surgery to stretch his spine?
zekko
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For some reason this made me picture one of those old time classic cars that you have to start with the crank in the front.
"Wait a minute, dear, I need to start up my penis.".
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Hmm ... 166 cm, have bench-pressed 135 kg, with a lower-normie-tier lay count.
Ignite that small man syndrome, you'll be over compensating like a peacock in no time.Hmm ... 166 cm, have bench-pressed 135 kg, with a lower-normie-tier lay count.
Small guys are like poodles, bark loudly, run around excitedly, act bravely when behind the fence...it's how bulldyke's do it to get girls.
Copy and paste my man.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.