"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Height vs Muscle, Take A Pick?
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Who Dares Win
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Given an average heigh and being muscular compared to being tall and average in body shape, I would take the second.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
lamath
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if this is an option it is obv anwser.
Apart from that, the question, in and out of itself is not really correct, given that height is perhaps the only thing in our outside appearance that we can't change and have zero control over. If you're skinny, you can bulk, if you're fat, you can slim down, if you don;t like your nose you can correct it but height is height and you just have to accept it.
Talking about women - not much relevance either. Height can give you some extra points only in the beginning. If you are about to get rejected, that'll be because she's not attracted to you - tall or short. Height may be just a rational excuse for her actions, same as if you are bold or have long arms....
P.S by the way, isn't it a common sense that if you are, say, 5’9”, you don't necessarily need to waste time targeting for instance a female volleyball player?! Stick to those who are 4-5 inches shorter than you.
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I'm 6ft. Not short but not tall (just watched the nba championship lol those fellas are tall). As for muscle, I've been lifting since softmore year high school.
To answer the questions, own and play the hand you were dealt to the best of your ability.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
soulforge
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Well Yeh.. If you have the height, you can work on getting muscular.
If your short... Well fuk all you can do about that.
marmel75
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Not if you are Richard the Frog...he was planning to go to Turkey and have his shins broken to add a few inches to his height...You need to distinguish "tall vs short" depending on geographical location. Obviously, the further south you go, the smaller would be the average height of the population. Now, 5’9” may be perfect for Latin America or Southern Europe but won't look good for Canada, much of Northern US or Northern European Countries, especially Scandinavia.
Apart from that, the question, in and out of itself is not really correct, given that height is perhaps the only thing in our outside appearance that we can't change and have zero control over. If you're skinny, you can bulk, if you're fat, you can slim down, if you don;t like your nose you can correct it but height is height and you just have to accept it.
Talking about women - not much relevance either. Height can give you some extra points only in the beginning. If you are about to get rejected, that'll be because she's not attracted to you - tall or short. Height may be just a rational excuse for her actions, same as if you are bold or have long arms....
P.S by the way, isn't it a common sense that if you are, say, 5’9”, you don't necessarily need to waste time targeting for instance a female volleyball player?! Stick to those who are 4-5 inches shorter than you.
To go with his bionic d!ck he already is packing...
In2theGame
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I'm 6'0 tall and can hit 6'1 when i wear my boots but for some girls that could be considered not tall enough or a short tiny girl may view that as really tall. Depends on the chick too.
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
RickTheToad
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I thought he was going into surgery to stretch his spine?
zekko
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For some reason this made me picture one of those old time classic cars that you have to start with the crank in the front.
"Wait a minute, dear, I need to start up my penis.".
MatureDJ
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Hmm ... 166 cm, have bench-pressed 135 kg, with a lower-normie-tier lay count.
Ignite that small man syndrome, you'll be over compensating like a peacock in no time.Hmm ... 166 cm, have bench-pressed 135 kg, with a lower-normie-tier lay count.
Small guys are like poodles, bark loudly, run around excitedly, act bravely when behind the fence...it's how bulldyke's do it to get girls.
Copy and paste my man.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.