fruitopiax
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^^ basically what the title says. Without kissing her on the lips/making out. Kissing on the body/foreplay doesn't count.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Have you ever had sex with a girl without kissing her once?
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
PRMoon
Master Don Juan
I'm calling for clarification. Do you mean never kissing her until sex or never kissing her before then kissing in the courting process leading to sex?
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
fruitopiax
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Not the second one. I mean more along the lines of you and her are somewhere isolated (room or something) and you end up having sex without actually kissing her. Like foreplay without lip kissing.PRMoon said:
PRMoon
Master Don Juan
Well I'm out. Kissing is my keys to the court yard. I'm doubtful that many people on this site will meet those standards without her being an actual prostitute. I do remember one guy who banged a girl without kissing her but he was a complete loser and she told him verbatum "you can do whatever you want to me but you can't kiss me"fruitopiax said:
Kissing provides a sense of intamacy and most girls won't forgo this unless the guy is inferior and they just want d*ck. Unanimously, every girl I've had sex with has wanted me on some level so sex without intamacy has not happened.
Kev07
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I did, not all the way, but I didn't feel like kissing her cause she was a pretty good friend
Popeyes
Don Juan
She has an ugly face?
Yep, sure have. Met her at a mutual friends party. Got to talking and flirting. Next thing you know I'm feeling her up, strong kino, etc. Then BAM! We're doing each other in an empty room.
Actually it was very lame, and not that fun at all. It may have been crappy sex but at least I can add it to my man-card.
Actually it was very lame, and not that fun at all. It may have been crappy sex but at least I can add it to my man-card.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
kdnash82
Master Don Juan
Absolutely prefer this method if it's a one night stand hit and quit. Who cares about passion?
guywhoneedshelp
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I've done this before. We had already agreed to fvck after sending messages to eachother on MySpace.
fourblueballs
Don Juan
I have.
It was a friday night.. I was doing something terrible right. Girls where approaching me.. left and right... pinching my bum.... ect. It was the first time.. that I had naturally used passive openers. I was seeing a girl I liked.. so I was TRYING to behave.
So I go down stairs.. and get swooped up by a girl... something just came over me.. it was all animal. Next thing I know.. I am inside of her grinding away.
I never kissed her... I did **** her from behind on the dance floor though.
It was a friday night.. I was doing something terrible right. Girls where approaching me.. left and right... pinching my bum.... ect. It was the first time.. that I had naturally used passive openers. I was seeing a girl I liked.. so I was TRYING to behave.
So I go down stairs.. and get swooped up by a girl... something just came over me.. it was all animal. Next thing I know.. I am inside of her grinding away.
I never kissed her... I did **** her from behind on the dance floor though.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
KarmaSutra
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ER!C L!VE said:About once a week w/ a different girl
Brother Eric is speaking gospel truth.
theunflushables
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Not neccesairly, remember the time ElStud kissed a prostitute and didn't have sex with her? :crackup:DonJuan11 said:
MacAvoy
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I've done it many times and it never took away from the experience. It just wasn't a part of my game / aresenal. You can have passion without touching a girl on her lips. Are you telling me that a women's lips are her only passionate spot?
Man you guys are naive.
Man you guys are naive.
“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.