fruitopiax
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^^ basically what the title says. Without kissing her on the lips/making out. Kissing on the body/foreplay doesn't count.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Not the second one. I mean more along the lines of you and her are somewhere isolated (room or something) and you end up having sex without actually kissing her. Like foreplay without lip kissing.PRMoon said:I'm calling for clarification. Do you mean never kissing her until sex or never kissing her before then kissing in the courting process leading to sex?
Well I'm out. Kissing is my keys to the court yard. I'm doubtful that many people on this site will meet those standards without her being an actual prostitute. I do remember one guy who banged a girl without kissing her but he was a complete loser and she told him verbatum "you can do whatever you want to me but you can't kiss me"fruitopiax said:Not the second one. I mean more along the lines of you and her are somewhere isolated (room or something) and you end up having sex without actually kissing her. Like foreplay without lip kissing.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
fruitopiax said:^^ basically what the title says. Without kissing her on the lips/making out. Kissing on the body/foreplay doesn't count.
So bottomline, having sex without kissing means the girl is a prostitute?PRMoon said:Well I'm out. Kissing is my keys to the court yard. I'm doubtful that many people on this site will meet those standards without her being an actual prostitute. I do remember one guy who banged a girl without kissing her but he was a complete loser and she told him verbatum "you can do whatever you want to me but you can't kiss me"
Kissing provides a sense of intamacy and most girls won't forgo this unless the guy is inferior and they just want d*ck. Unanimously, every girl I've had sex with has wanted me on some level so sex without intamacy has not happened.
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
ER!C L!VE said:About once a week w/ a different girl![]()
Not neccesairly, remember the time ElStud kissed a prostitute and didn't have sex with her? :crackup:DonJuan11 said:So bottomline, having sex without kissing means the girl is a prostitute?
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.