fruitopiax
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^^ basically what the title says. Without kissing her on the lips/making out. Kissing on the body/foreplay doesn't count.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Have you ever had sex with a girl without kissing her once?
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
PRMoon
Master Don Juan
I'm calling for clarification. Do you mean never kissing her until sex or never kissing her before then kissing in the courting process leading to sex?
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
fruitopiax
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Not the second one. I mean more along the lines of you and her are somewhere isolated (room or something) and you end up having sex without actually kissing her. Like foreplay without lip kissing.PRMoon said:
PRMoon
Master Don Juan
Well I'm out. Kissing is my keys to the court yard. I'm doubtful that many people on this site will meet those standards without her being an actual prostitute. I do remember one guy who banged a girl without kissing her but he was a complete loser and she told him verbatum "you can do whatever you want to me but you can't kiss me"fruitopiax said:
Kissing provides a sense of intamacy and most girls won't forgo this unless the guy is inferior and they just want d*ck. Unanimously, every girl I've had sex with has wanted me on some level so sex without intamacy has not happened.
Kev07
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I did, not all the way, but I didn't feel like kissing her cause she was a pretty good friend
Popeyes
Don Juan
She has an ugly face?
Yep, sure have. Met her at a mutual friends party. Got to talking and flirting. Next thing you know I'm feeling her up, strong kino, etc. Then BAM! We're doing each other in an empty room.
Actually it was very lame, and not that fun at all. It may have been crappy sex but at least I can add it to my man-card.
Actually it was very lame, and not that fun at all. It may have been crappy sex but at least I can add it to my man-card.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
kdnash82
Master Don Juan
Absolutely prefer this method if it's a one night stand hit and quit. Who cares about passion?
guywhoneedshelp
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I've done this before. We had already agreed to fvck after sending messages to eachother on MySpace.
fourblueballs
Don Juan
I have.
It was a friday night.. I was doing something terrible right. Girls where approaching me.. left and right... pinching my bum.... ect. It was the first time.. that I had naturally used passive openers. I was seeing a girl I liked.. so I was TRYING to behave.
So I go down stairs.. and get swooped up by a girl... something just came over me.. it was all animal. Next thing I know.. I am inside of her grinding away.
I never kissed her... I did **** her from behind on the dance floor though.
It was a friday night.. I was doing something terrible right. Girls where approaching me.. left and right... pinching my bum.... ect. It was the first time.. that I had naturally used passive openers. I was seeing a girl I liked.. so I was TRYING to behave.
So I go down stairs.. and get swooped up by a girl... something just came over me.. it was all animal. Next thing I know.. I am inside of her grinding away.
I never kissed her... I did **** her from behind on the dance floor though.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
KarmaSutra
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ER!C L!VE said:About once a week w/ a different girl
Brother Eric is speaking gospel truth.
theunflushables
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Not neccesairly, remember the time ElStud kissed a prostitute and didn't have sex with her? :crackup:DonJuan11 said:
MacAvoy
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I've done it many times and it never took away from the experience. It just wasn't a part of my game / aresenal. You can have passion without touching a girl on her lips. Are you telling me that a women's lips are her only passionate spot?
Man you guys are naive.
Man you guys are naive.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.